Lay off davey - what about the players

Why no criticism of poor player performances on the pitch?
Unfit players, lazy players, players who lack commitment etc. - these factors are not down to the manager.
Players are well paid to do a job, they have brains they are responsible for team performance good or bad.
Why turn a blindeye to player failings and keep blaming the manager?

 

Trouble is, it is still kinda daveys fault.....

He's the one thats decimated the squad prior to this season leaving no recognised alternatives fighting for a place in the team. Those who stroll on the pitch from now on know they will have to be way past shocking to get replaced cos there's nubdi there anymore! see where i'm coming from? (chinny)

 

Because those faults should have been rectified by the manager

It is his responsibility to ensure the players are up to standard, if they are not why does he keep playing them?
I am certain that the players cant just say to him " Oh I am playing today, boss, i know I am not fit and cant really be bothered, but I am playing anyway"

If the manager has no say in these things, why do we need him at all? Just let the players do what they want and get rid of the staff.

 

It's Daveys job to

motivate, make the players fit and all the other things you have said. If he can't do that then he dosn't command the dressing room.

Therefore i nearly agree with you.

Lay off Davey! Yes, Lay him off!

 

you do realise that the MANAGER is paid to manage these players

and if he is unable to do so then he shouldn't be in the job. Its not that hard to work out zetland.

He coaches them every day so if they aren't fit then he isn't coaching them properly is he.

If he isn't responsible for the motivation, fitness levels and skill of the players then what exactly is he responsible for?

And if the players and performing then why is davey picking the same team week after week? the only thing he changes is the strikers and that is because he still doesn't know who his best strikers are. And some of them have been at the club two years

 

I think there has been plenty of...

criticsm of players.

If you think there are Unfit players, then surely that is to do with Davey and his as a staff?

 

RE: I think there has been plenty of...

Yes there has. Zetland you should read the posts on here. I have said several times over the last few days that while the buck stops with Davey many of the players need a good kick up the arse and aren't fit to wear the shirt. They should be ashamed of themselves but Davey has created a lot of the problems we are now facing as a result of having no competition for places.

 

No backup players=comfort zone for first team,simples!! nt

 

Unfit players, lazy players, players who lack commitment etc.

these factors are not down to the manager?</p>

So what do you think is a managers job then? (doh)</p>

 

RE: you do realise that the MANAGER is paid to manage these players

are the players responsible for anything?

 

Er, I'll think you'll find that ensuring fitness and motivation are a very important part of the managers job. Sorry, but they are.

 

Yes but theres also the aspect of self motivation as well which has nothing to do with the manager but the individual themselves

 

Then the manager should drop them shouldn't he?

If he fails to do so then it is his fault. Also he employed all of these people, if he is employing so many people that he can't motivate then you have to question either his motivational skills or his selection skills as hes obviously signing unmotivated players

 

I dunt think he should have started Hume.</p>

Can't fault his (ar Iain's) effort and commitment like, but he clearly wasn't match fit.
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i think you've missed the point. A manager can only motivate someone so much. Ultimatley its down the that person themsevles to acheive the right level of motivation, be it in sports, sales or gaining willful employment.

 

I see your point

but if almost all of the employees under a manager are unmotivated and the manager is unable to change that then questions have to be asked of the manager.

 

he's paid to manage the team isn't he?

(chinny)

 

or of the employees to do their jobs.

 

Ok then , why are the players still getting on to the pitch? If they are to blame then they need to be dropped, they are not being dropped and therefore, which ever way you want to dress it up and put as much spin on it as you want, it is entiorely the fault of the manager that those players that arec failing every week are still playing.

When you have a "leaner" squad, there is no-one left to come in and take over from the under achievers!
Again down to the manager.

 

The laner squad and lack of cover is the manager's resonsibilty but failiure to self motivate is down to one person.