Left Wing Post. Pre Thatcher Britain

Am I the only one willing for Corbyn's Labour to overthrow Cameron, his smack head number 2 and the sociopathic Duncan Smith? All we'v had for the last 35 years is a imploding country bent on privatisation, phoney wars and greed. Why do these right wing sympathisers call left wingers like Corbyn 'Marxist and Leninist'? Does that make David Cameron/IDS fascist 'Hitlerist' or Mussoliniist'? God save England and god bless the Current Labour Movement.

 

The last truly left Wing labour govt created the NHS,built millions of council houses created a welfare system.
Not bad for Looney lefties.

 

I'm right behind him. His biggest problems will come from the right wing of his own party.

We always needed a wise old leader with a white beard.

 

No, not the only one. I'm hoping it all works out.

 

Maxist and Leninist are probably real words. With all this talk of nationalisation of the banks - seizing assets, and the like - it's not entirely wide of the mark.

To be fair I think there's a fair few in the Labour party who would wear the badge with pride - in the same way that Tories wear the badge "Thatcherite" and "capitalist" even though the left would see those as insult.

But to be fair I don't think Hitlerist ever made it into the dictionary. That's probably the main reason folk don't use it. Wouldn't Smithsonian be the equivalent of Marxist?

 

No. Corbyns attitude to defence is beyond words.

As a staunch labourite it pains me to see our party become unelectable. We can't win the Scottish voters back and we can't win Middle England.

 

No you're not the only one, not by a long chalk.

Alas before he and his party can form a government I fear someone will have to seize control of the media - whilst ever the Labour party are faced with a right wing dominated press Mr Corbyn may find better pickings plaitting fog.

 

Don't be too sure of that mate.
There's a movement out there, the Tory's are truly rattled .
Thousands each day are flocking to join the labour party at a time when the media are really sticking it in him, associating him with anyone evil as they can get away with.
He won't have the media on his side that's for sure and the right wing of the labour party are trying to protect their nice little gaffe and expenses by not allowing him to ring the changes without a fight.
But they'll have to because if they move party's they'll trigger a bye election and with the mood of the people it won't be too comfortable for them.
People are sick of the lie of austerity and hopefully Corbyn will expose it for what it is, an attack on the lower classes and upon the facilities we've built .

 

Wonder why the election was so conclusive then.

As for Corbyn - he's a man so wishy-washy he'd negotiate over the Falklands despite 99.3% of them voting to remain as part of the UK. That's the perfect epitaph for the Labour party. "Died chasing after a tiny minority".

 

Conclusive?
25% of the population.
Suppose that's a Tory view of a landslide. But deny others the same scrutiny.
The only people that died chasing a minority were the soldiers sacrificed for Thatcher's money saving scheme of not defending the Falklands before they were invaded.she a fek didn't give until she saw the potential to save her premiership which she was definitely gonna lose.

 

??? The SNP are anti trident & won all the seats in scotland?

Corbyn's role isn't to win middle england. It is to win people who SHOULD be voting Labour back. There are plenty of people in this country who are struggling for one reason or another. I'm not one of them & I'm willing to back him. I'll pay a bit more tax for a fairer country. Not everyone will.

The real issue was the other candidates were so on the fence they inspired no one, just like Milliband did at the last election.

This is a country with a right wing press, an undemocratic electoral system & the Labour Party is full of career politicians like Liz Kendal, so he has his work cut out. Doesn't stop me supporting someone I agree with 100%.

 

I suppose it comes down to whether you want the current scumbags to remain in power. If you do, don't vote Labour. If you want an end to a Tory government, vote Labour. Simple.

 

just because Corbyn is anti trident wont make the scots turn tale and vote labour again. they are firmly in the SNP and nationalist camp for at least a generation

you say you will pay more tax, so we are back to tax and spend already? how about we tax those who should be paying, large corporations and those who earn enough to afford it.

at least he divides opinions and gets people involved in politics who were previously non plussed. I don't believe however he will win in 2020.

 

I wouldn't be too sure about the Scots if I were you.
A lot of them are for independence and the SNP but there's also a helluva lot who are unionists and voted to stay in the UK but voted SNP because of the weak backed parliamentary labour cnuts like Chukka Umuna etc.

 

I can see how they felt disenfranchised. as most of us did to be fair, I really think once you've lost someone its harder to return. That's also why Britain will not vote for someone so far on the left of the political scale.

 

We'll see but I think this is gonna be different tbh.
Corbyn is a well known rebel and as you say left winger.but the compromises he's prepared to make is really breathtaking for him?
He's been inclusive in his cabinet selection even though the blairites have thrown the teddy out and gone home.
I really think that some kind of new politics will come of this and will get some momentum.

 

I'm very excited that Corbyn is now leader of the Labour Party. I'll admit that I knew nothing about him whatsoever until his election but I have been reading up about him and his beliefs since then and I feel like I've finally got someone who I share sentiments with to vote for.

My husband and I are probably in a position now where we'd be better off voting for Conservatives in a purely selfish financial way (although I never would because of what they are doing to education) but I would rather be worse off and those that need help get it, than potentially have a bit more money myself.

 

Rather amusing how you can be so dismissive of 25% but when they tell the Trade Unions they require the same proportion of support for strike action somehow that's unfair.

Ultimately what we have in this town are a bunch of people who are so consumed with hatred for Thatcher they'll continue to fight the battles of thirty years ago instead of recognising that the country has moved on.

 

This k you'll find its 50% the Tory's are after keep up.
The town is still suffering as are some of its residents Thatcher will be hated 100years from now in this town whilst moving on.

 

It's not returning to battles fought and lost its about tackling inequality and poverty now, we are a rich nation that the Red Cross delivers food parcels to. Not everyone believes that greed is going. The boom and bust of capitalism and an economy based on service industries has been shown to fail. It's time to challenge the orthodoxy as they have in Spain, Greece, France and Scotland. It's about fairness about making the wealthy pair there share.

It'll be a difficult battle to fight giving the viciousness of the right wing media but it's better to life on our feet than die on our knees.