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  1. Cun

    Cunning Stunt Well-Known Member

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    What if LJ does actually stay with us. Tainted?!?
     
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    He's gone. It's over. Cheating basterd. :D
     
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    You got sources Whitey? Or opinion mate?
     
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    He's got Beechams and Night Nurse
     
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    I'd send him to clap clinic, then have a fiddle wi best mate to call it quits.
     
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    LJ hasn't got sp.unk on his chin.
     
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    Not for me. If someone offered me another job (another? ha!), I'd talk to them, even if I was perfectly happy where I was. I wouldn't stick my fingers in my ears and shout "la, la, la, la, laaa, not listening, I've got to be loyal." That's not being loyal, that's being stupid. They might be about to offer me 50 grand a week in which case you can shove your loyalty up your arse, I'm off. **** loyal, give me rich. If they were offering much of the same in terms of responsibilities and pay, I'd thank them for the offer but stay put. But everyone's got a tipping point. It might be pay, or location, or job responsibilities, or prestige or whatever pushes your buttons and every single one of us can be offered something that supersedes loyalty because we're not talking about life and death, or love and friendship, or family, no one is going to get hurt, it's just a job and in such a situation loyalty only goes so far. But I don't believe you're being disloyal by talking to someone.

    That's probably all academic like as we're now in to the second day, so it looks very much like he's going, but if he should state he's staying, I'll have no problem with that.
     
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    But surely the fact that that LJ/and others have sold the club to others and their recruitments with a 'long term strategy' of a new gaffer whose on a long term contract and we've a vision of a new approach that's all about longevity and growth. Then BOOM!
     
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    But surely the fact that that LJ/and others have sold the club to others and their recruitments with a 'long term strategy' of a new gaffer whose on a long term contract and we've a vision of a new approach that's all about longevity and growth. Then BOOM!

    Hey I've done similar in previous jobs. But if my boss who'd sold me on a vision/ideas then looked elsewhere and then came back I'd be of a different mindset. I'd think that what I'd been sold was bullsh1t. From a long term development etc angle. It's probably cos I'm a loyal person that my morals are a little old fashioned. But I'd think far less of LJ if he returned. It'd take a master stroke imho to keep the current momentum to carry on. For me it's an irreversible situation.
     
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    The long term strategy is very much the line coming from Ben and Patrick rather than Lee. Not that he would disagree with it, but it's the club rather than the Head Coach who are selling that to us. As far as the recruitment of players is concerned, we've been told time and again that Lee identifies the players, but it's up to Ben and Patrick to secure them, to negotiate, to sell these players the long term strategy. Lee is very much an employee rather than someone who decides on how the club is to be run and what direction it takes. I think the statement released today makes that very clear.

    I put a lot of value in loyalty, to my wife, my friends and my family. I don't always live up to my own expectations; I'm flawed and not nearly as good a man as I'd like to be, but I try. Loyalty to your employees is also a fine trait, but that can only go so far or we'd all still be doing that paper round and working as the Saturday boy in the local shop. Ambition and bettering yourself are fine traits too and if someone is offering what many might perceive to be better, you've got to listen, even if your intention is to say no before the meeting even begins.

    I reckon I could win the players back pretty quickly. "I was offered the Bristol City job on a lot more money, but I felt my work here wasn't done and the squad of players I've got to work with here at Barnsley is far superior to that at Bristol. So come on, let's get in the play-offs and win that cup and all earn ourselves much bigger contracts."

    IMHO and all that.
     
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    Maybe I like to watch.

    Bugger got my forums mixed up there...
     
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    If LJ came back and said "I would always have regrets if I hadn't at least spoken to Bristol City. There a bigger club in a higher league, one I have fond memories of and I owed it to my family to least have a chat with them. But after thinking it over, I've unfinished business at Oakwell. I love this club and the fans have been great with me. I couldn't ask for a better owner to deal with than Mr Cryne, whilst I owe it to these players to finish what we've started together. I can't wait to lead this great club out at Wembley and give the play offs a real good go" then I'd forgive him and wouldn't twice about it

    The chances of this happening though are 0%


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    All this. Although I'd put it at 1%.
     
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    Untenable situation (not that it's going to happen).

    He's effectively abandoned post to start discussions when they could have easily taken place on Monday.

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    I don't agree with the simile, it gets used a lot in football and while there may be an element of truth from a fans perspective it is completely incorrect for a manager.
     
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    Talking common sense, as always, Jay. Fully agree with that.
     
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    Maslows Hierarchy of needs
     

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