Looks like the media are beginning to soften us up...

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  1. Tek

    Tekkytyke Well-Known Member

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    ...for another round of quantative easing. Exporters are, apparently, beginning to whinge about the 'inexorable rise" in the pound against the dollar and the Euro etc as the poor dears will soon have to "do something about their pricing" and it will affect profits. Sorry but whichever way you slice it, and you can come up with all the fancy Economic theory you want but if UK ltd is a NET IMPORTER then surely a strong pound means overall we, as an economy, gain.
    Furthermore many of these manufactures omit to say that the cost of the raw materials and parts used (plus energy and fuel), many sourced from abroad become cheaper for the same reason. It is disingenuous to claim that a 10% increase in the pound is reflected by a similar amount in a fall in profits. The retail sector benefits since imported produce is cheaper. Since manufacturing involving exports is proportionately lower across the economy, whilst there are winners and losers we are surely better off with a stronger currency (within reason). Businesses always find something to moan about! Rant over
     
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    I think what you have to ask there, Tekktyke is does this government want us all to benefit from cheaper imports or does it want it's business chums to do better? As a clue to that, you only have to look at the steady erosion of employment rights and the measures taken to make it more difficult to enforce them. This is a very divisive government, and the divisiveness has been masked by having a coalition partner which has very rarely used it's effective veto.
     
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    Spot on Tekky. A strong pound means we get loads more foreign stuff in return for our English stuff. That's a great deal.
     
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    Businesses have short memories, conveniently for them.

    A few years ago the pound was above €1.60 and we all thought that was normal. Then it went down to almost parity and beer in Austrian après-ski bars got really expensive.

    Now it's €1.26, nowhere near its former value. They want everything, poor dears.
     
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    Dont these things even out anyway - if the pound becomes too expensive then yet exports will suffer and the economy will start to stall and so the pound will start to fall again - wasnt the reason the pound dropped before for precisely that reason. Not sure if I ever thought €1.60 was normal wasnt that when the Euro was in crisis but certainly I remember €1.40 as being a normal level - 1.26 is definitely not an excessive figure. Same for the dollar rate - its now $1.70 but for its definitely been over $2.00 - and at that rate it was a bit of a problem for the company I work for as almost all our work is effectively exported to Europe so then we lose money or have to take pay cuts or increase prices

    A lot depends on the business though and whether your costs are mostly raw materials -which obviously become much cheaper or labour costs and infrastructure costs which dont change
     
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    I remember the days before the Euro when the Deutschmark was at 3.4 to the pound or so - that's equivalent to a Euro rate of €1.70. As you say it's all relative and evens itself out over time. However, since beer is by far the largest component of overseas holiday expenditure, any fall in the value of the pound can have a devastating effect.
     
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    Beer and also Lift passes! - paying over €300 for a lift pass is a lot more palatable at €1.60 than it is at €1.10 which I remember doing a couple of years ago
     
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    Agreed. I love snow.
     

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