Lose at Luton and

Davey will be gone...anyone agree

BT

 

Nah - Sheps won't admit to being wrong. nt

 

Nah - Sheps won't admit to being wrong. nt

 

No nt

 

Gordon wont, there is nobody left at the club to be a caretaker, (Ryan Kidd maybe).

He has consigned us to league 1, probably for the next five years with all these players contracts up in the summer.

Thats the bad guy, Davey had to accept is chance when it came but should never have been offered it. Never thought i would say this, but even Stan Ternent would have been better.

 

Nope, we have got Davey for the rest of the season. Like it or lump it. If things got so desperate and we were relegated he may do the decent thing and resign. But it is very very unlikely that Shep would sack him. Shep and the board have made their choice, and to save face they will stick with him. If and when we do get relegated then i think there will be a massive shake up at Board level, new members in and some old faces out. That's how football works. (titanic)

 

My gut instinct says

lose at Luton and play crap and the pressure will be so intense that I think he will go, the board can already see money marching out of the door.

Cant say why but I get the feeling the players may well have a say in this as well based on reading between lines of something I heard.

Then again my gut instinct could be the result of a dodgy curry Davey could turn out to be the saviour of BFC and I may wake up to find its been a horible dream.

BT

 

'Fraid not. Despite what the majority may feel, and from the crowd reaction on Tuesday I'd say that's fairly obvoius, there's nobody in a position to take over.
Unless -
1) Gordon Shepherd does a "Ron Noades" and completely takes over First Team affairs (heaven forbid!)
or
2) There have been secret talks with someone we haven't heard about (wishful thinking as Davey hasen't even got the seat warm yet!)

 

Agree.

Leaks to the press say the same.

 

wish I could be confident and agree, but unfortunatley I fear the worst. I think we will have Davey here till at least the end of the season. If we sacked him, that would leave us managerless, but with us paying 2 managers compensation! We haven't got any money to start with, let alone money paying for people who are no longer employed by us!

 

Well no-one can say he's got the players behind him...

if the last 2 displays are anything to go by.

If they were really behind him, would we have seen such gutless displays?

 

Can't see it happening

Sacking Davey doesn't solve any problems. It probably creates more of them. For a start, it'll mean paying off two managers in the space of a few months, which is commercial suicide for the club, regardless of all the instability it brings.

The Board spent 8 weeks deciding to appoint Davey in the first place. Losing him wouldn't necessarily mean a quick appointment is made. After all, how could you go back to one of the other candidates now and begin the process of getting them in without looking daft? Chances are we'd have to start the whole process again, meaning another period of waiting, which we can't afford to go through.

There are logical reasons why sacking Davey is never likely to happen in the short-term, regardless of the massive public U-turn it would represent which I don't think the Board would be prepared to go through in any event.

Unfortunately, if things continue as they are, the problem that this creates is that the pressure on Davey himself to 'do the honourable thing' will intensify, and will possibly become too much for him to accept at some point down the line. The poor guy has done nothing wrong, other than to take on a role that looks, at present, to be beyond him. Its not his fault he was offered a role where the usual 'honeymoon period' he could expect was already coming to an end. Fair play to him for taking it on, but the resulting scrutiny on his every decision is already huge. He seems to be a genuine, honest and sincere guy but surely even he has a limit to what he can tolerate.

The problem now is that, for the reasons above, I can't see how his role will end this season unless he is pressured into resigning. However, if things continue to decline as they are, then it may ultimately be something he considers doing, for his own sake. That would be a very sad conclusion to the situation he finds himself in at the moment and would benefit neither BFC or Davey in the long-term.

He didn't create the situation we're in at the moment, and he's doing his best to deal with it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone and I remain hopeful that he finds a way to turn it around. The bit I'm struggling with is to try and convert the hope into belief.

 

We're already doing that with Ritchie and Holden.

Waste some more cash getting rid of these two, Gord could then quickly sign a couple of players while no-one notices we haven't got a manager. Job done.

 

at least our operating profit might be in the black by then!

the huge crowds we'll be attracting

 

Can't see Davey resigning either. Would be pretty much suicide for his career,

not much chance of getting a first team managers job anywhere else in the futurewith a 2 month failure as his only experience.</p>

 

RE: Can't see Davey resigning either. Would be pretty much suicide for his career,

But maybe he reaches the point where he does it for the sake of his well-being. The singing on Tuesday was the first public display of 'anti-Davey' sentiment. Anger is turning away from the Board to him as far as the 'public perception' goes (I don't agree with this happening but it appears to be a fact). No-one deserves that 3 weeks into a new job.

He might decide it just isn't worth the hassle if it carries on for too long.

 

Somebody would take him as a youth coach.. Back to square one

.

 

Maybe, but this is his big chance to make a name and a career for

himself. He has a lot to lose andeven more to gain if he could succeed whichhe must think he can.

 

Hey if he can turn this around now he will become another Oakwell legend

and I for one will applaud all the way as he walks across the pitch, but I can see it happening.. Can you ?

 

Unfotunately no. It's always a big task taking over from a manager

who was popular with the players and who had signed and shown faith in those players. He has a pretty thankless task, one that will take a long time to complete as I can't see any easy short term solutions. All the more reason to have gone for stability in the first place and sorted out any differences rather than going along the 'sack the manager' route we seem to have gone down so often recently. Yet another bloody clear out and bring in his own players, how many of those have we seen over the last 10 years? Too many.