is and always will be a complete and utter loser. The sooner we get rid of the waster the better, i would do it first thing in the morning. Captain my arse, can't believe he has lasted this long at the club.
im off to r'lasses sisters tomorrow, she lives a few doors from crainie. I'll stick a dog turd through his letter box got you
I just can't understand the hate for Cranie on this forum - a completely different feeling from what I sense at Oakwell. Can't comment on today but by and large, the lad's been a quality player for us and one I've always enjoyed watching. Yours, a self confessed Cranie seal.
Don't rate him as a player and never have but I don't think there's any need to give him personal abuse. Apart from jizzing on random peoples toast I don't remember a single incident where he's acted even remotely like a nob
He is one of our senior pros and better players who should stand out and set an example in this division. Has he?
If Danny has to pay for the team's lack of spirit and passion, then surely the captain (?) has to carry some blame also. He makes mistakes, cannot marshall those around him, and lacks the physicality to be a proper central defender. He has no leadership qualities to speak of. He is part of the losing mentality, and ought to have been moved on before the season started. We are in a bad position, and this is no time for sentimentality.
Got to agree with the sentiment of this post... He certainly has shown some good attributes as a player, but not sure leadership is one and still no convinced he's as good as his reputation. As i have said before 'a poor mans David Luis' bags of talent, on his day he is premership class, but to inconsistent and prone to mistakes and no one is actually sure is his best position. I would also pick out that in end of season runs e.g. Flickers great escape, and Keith's cliff hanger seasons when we fought back for survival Martin Cranie was injured! At the time we all thought with MC missing we wouldn't stand a chance, but actually we stopped leaking goals and cut down individual errors. Was this just coincidence? Look at his CV, he has always played in a relegation dog fight, why? IMHO Martin is a talented lad, and his best position is right back. He is an experienced pro but does not have leadership quality. Ramage would be my captain. And further experience needed in all areas.
I've got to agree with you. If you are in a position like yesterday the captain should be having a go at his players and talking all the time to the young ones. One thing that I noticed by its absence yesterday was the senior pros guiding the youngsters. We lacked a real captain out there. Ramage was really missed. We also lacked physical presence. Once our opening flurry came to nothing ( and I was really hopeful after the first 20 minutes), Crawley gradually took over by muscling us off the ball too often. It was men against boys for much of the time.
Can't say I rate Cranie as a captain. Not even particularly bothered as a player. At the same time the very concept of 'captaincy' and leadership is all rubbish. Such a British thing and we all know what world leaders in football we are. In Europe it's pretty much an honorary title. I remember Capello being interviewed and pretty much saying he didn't see what all the fuss was about. Do adults really need some bloke shouting at the to make them do their job? If someone did that to me at work I'd **** em''.. As for Ramage such a limited player. I love his passion and commitment both admirable but actual performances no better than anyone else.
Martin Cranie never wanted to stay here , he was desperately tying to find another club pre season, but nobody wanted him because he's not very good , nothing special. So he had to come back and what do they do , make him the fkin Captain. Everytime he playes in the middle we're poor, hes useless as a right back as well because he darent get forward. Get rid , every team he plays in fails.
If was managing the team I'd have them in at 6am on Monday morning & before we started training I'd ask the captain & to hold a meeting with the team, which I'd watch & take notes of to get a consensus of what went wrong. I'd then tell them that they are all playing the next match & we'd work doubly hard to put it right. That was a team of players that crumbled like a twice dunked digestive after the first goal went in. If they didn't respond to Cranie's leadership I'd strip him of the captaincy & give it to Ramage while the end of the season & loan him out to Rochdale. There was nothing really wrong with the team on paper, just the backbone.
You can't single out Cranie, the full squad must take responsibility for what's happening at this football club. Bobby Hassell called it well with his interview on RS when he had been released... 'I can't see the club fighting at the top of the league, the money isn't great so I can't see them signing any established league one players it'll be kids playing, and there's some good kids at oakwell with bright futures but it's far too soon for them and they'll be under a lot of pressure'. Bobby should have been offered the coaching deal we all and he expected to be given.
He really wasn't. The club were touting him round to move him on because he's on of our biggest earners like O'Grady was. The club wanted Cranie to go to Blackpool after accepting an offer but Cranie chose not to. That's hardly the actions of a man 'desperate' to leave. I think you're confusing taking a while to sign with spent 2 months partying abroad & signed when he got back.
I love this forum, Cranie was really popular on here until it was revealed he was one of our biggest earners. Ever since he's had loads of stick & a lot of it undeserved. It's also amusing that the same people say he's a **** captain, which I wouldn't argue with but then when you ask them who would they give it to the only name they can think of is Ramage who's on loan. Look around, no manager gives the captaincy to a loan player, it doesn't happen. So he's the captain by default. It's not his fault that we've had a succession of managers that have driven leaders out of the club & not replaced them. If we're looking for scapegoats I'd much rather blame folk like Jennings, Lita & Treacy who've been appalling this season.
To be fair I don't know if they're partying all the time but he was abroad a lot. To be fair I don't blame them, if I was a single, rich footballer I'd be off abroad every summer