Micky Mellon & Dave Flitcroft

theres still a chance that these two could win promotion up to Lg One this season, do any fans on here care at all about them anymore. mellon is about to win automatic promotion with Shrewsbury, and flicker might take Bury up through the play offs.

I think we got rid of flicker at the right time as he was only taking us down, and i thought that danny wilson would do a better job than mellon so in all fairness i think we were unfair on mellon.

 

Like Flicker, hope he does well with them. Want to see him back at Oakwell and hopefully getting a great reception!

 

I'd like to see Mellon do well. Not arsed about Flitcroft, glad he saved us before he f*cked it up spectacularly and turned in to a bit of a lovely person like his mate at Rochfail.

 

Rochfail, thats a good one

i think flicker was ace when he took the job and kept us up, (f* you Odriscoll and f* you Butcher) but what on earth went wrong with him the next season.

 

In that season he kept us up, we went all out hell for leather trying to win every point we could. It was a good job it worked because 54 points (I think) would have seen us relegated.

What changed was very little in terms of personnel; the same side were given the chance to try and kick on from where they left off. Sadly most of them were not up to it and the pace and power we put in, in that last 3 months of the season, just was never going to be there the following season. What I took from those first few games of last season was that rather than going for as many points as we could, Flicker was setting us up to try and be difficult to beat, to try and stop the opposition from scoring first and foremost. Fundamentally this plan failed miserably and Flicker had no real way of changing it, especially after the transfer window closed.

I have fond memories of that half a season, and I will hold no grudges to Flicker.

As for Mellon, he should have been given the job until at least the end of the season, in my opinion, after taking our first away win of the season in his first game in charge.

 

I hope they both get promoted, between them they gave us one of the best runs in my lifetime and one that I'll never forget.

 

I have nothing against either man and wish them both success. They tried their best for our club. Flicker says some bizarre stuff, but he always spoke about Barnsley, the club and the fans in a positive manner. Mellon just seemed like a genuinely good bloke.

Mansford summed up the situation perfectly in the WSB interview. After the great escape we should have moved on and signed better players rather than reward the players who had us finish 4th bottom. A mistake both Flicker and Mansford will have learned from. Misguided loyalty I suppose. Loyalty is a great character trait but not necessarily advantageous when managing a football club. Mansford was in his first few weeks in his first ever role as CEO of a football club and Flicker just a few months in to his first ever job as a manager. Hardly surprising mistakes were being made. I'm not going to hold it against either of them.

Mellon should have either been given the manager's job or moved on with Flicker. Inviting him to stay and have Wilson work with him meant the players had divided loyalties.

Hope they both win promotion and they'll certainly be welcomed back to Oakwell by me. Then I hope we stuff 'em.

 

No problem with either of them.

It adds a bit of spice to games that would probably feel flat against other random promoted sides.

Plus we'd probably get to see Lawrence, Clark, Rose, Etuhu & McNulty back here

 

I thought that Flicker was sacked at the right time, we were just awful and something had to change. I was gutted because I really liked him for what he'd done the season before but it all went wrong and he lost the plot.

As for Mellon I just didn't get why we gave him a couple of games and then brought Danny in, I always thought it was a very strange decision. If it had been up to me then he'd have been given until the end of the season before a decision was made.

It will be nice to see MM back next season, Flicker too if he doesn't lose the plot and implode at Bury.

 

You can say what you like, Mellon, Flitcroft and Hill are all pushing for promotion. They must have some coaching skills. The problem is, can they do it at a higher level like the championship league. That is the big question and one that was basically answered at Barnsley. Having said that I do think Mellon did not have time to prove himself. Good luck to them but we have our own LJ and time will tell with this young man whether he has the nous.

 

Saves me some typing that ^^^

 

See I take a different view. The common denominator is the club they failed at. I'm more interested in why they were successful elsewhere, and hope we try and learn from that.

 

I hope both of them gain promotion because it'd be good to give them a decent reception in way of thanks for what they achieved as a partnership in the first half of their spell here.

I struggle with the loyalty thing though. Yes, they retained lots of the lads who'd eventually kept us up, but some were treated shabbily in my opinion. Despite starting that season in decent enough form, Dagnall was soon dropped never to be seen again and we had Pedersen instead who was frankly abysmal. M'Voto came straight in at McNulty's expense, not to forget they'd got shut of Foz and tried their damnedest to get Bobby out. Then we had the Luke Steele stuff which practically killed my support for Flicker. Steele as captain had been the most vocal player in his support for Flicker getting the job, and performed heroics in that great escape. To then scapegoat him like he did, after the confusion over giving him a new deal (too old for a two year deal) was bad form. To then sign thi 41 year old pal as a replacement? Mental.

Mellis on the wing, Dawson and Perkins central, lost the plot and signed Fox who offered even less in there, before signing Paddy and employing tactics named "give it to Paddy".

I don't think Flicker was that loyal at all really. As Bury manager he's recruited over 40 players so far, and the majority on paper I'd suggest are/were (he's got shut of half of them already) far better than L2 standard. I find it incredible that they've not run away with the division. At one point that looked likely. But in December Flicker imploded and to a man, every poster on their forum wanted him out and were citing the same issues that we'd faced with him in charge. However, fair play to their owner for sticking with it/him because Flicker has come through that awful spell and will have become better as a manager I feel for that experience. Unlike others, I wasn't happy when he was sacked here, despite me not liking him much. I felt he'd overseen a bloody miracle the year before and so I expected him to be given time to turn it around. But 18 games was enough for Cryne and co.

They didn't give Danny reight long either. And if we're not flying by December next season, I'd put big money on LJ going the same way. And so in answer to Ark's post above, yep. Bang on. Because despite the failings of Danny, Flicker, Keith, whoever, the football club and its decision makers have made mistake after mistake and seemingly learn little from them. And sadly, even if they try a different tact should LJ be struggling next season, and support/back him, we'll have lots of supporters wanting him out. Some basing that on the clubs past. Some just because that's all they know.

Let's hope LJ gets us playing as good a game as he talks. Then all that'll be irrelevant.

 

No problems with Mellon , seemed Ok when I talked to him, Flicker ? Nah !

 

What actually happened? Are you allowed to say?

 

Considering he's threatened to sue the Chron for printing something that was true and already in the public domain, I'd say no, he probably isn't.

 

Fair enough. We'll leave it at that, then.

 

As I've got a bet on BOTH teams to get promoted, obviously I hope they succeed. Met them both personally when they were here(was with Flicker the night he had confirmation of "A special player from Bayern Munich coming to Barnsley!!) & liked them both. Things didn't work out for them here but does it for anybody?? Wouldn't it be fun to have 3 teams in Div 1 with us next year managed by 3 of our ex- Managers!!!

 

We were like Leicester are this season, just attack and hope...