Miners Strike..........

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  1. Brianpotter

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    Little bit off topic here i know!!!

    But i wasnt around during the miners strike and want to get to know abit more about it......

    Can anyone recommend any good books about this.....

    thanks in advance!!
     
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    The Enemy Within by Seamus Milne.
     
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    Talk to some posters on here who genuinely seem to have a very in depth knowledge gained through personal experience. I always find that dekparker, to name just one, holds very interesting views on this.
     
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    Thatcher pillocked Scargill into striking as the weather warmed up and after stock piling coal.

    Magic way to run a country by targeting and decimating a certain industry and communities.

    Scargill should be ******* shot for his role as well - the UK will be paying the price for decades.


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    How many million tons of coal are still underground that we could and should still be using....Fookin Thatcher.
     
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    Was there never any attempt to privatise the industry?

    I'm still not sure there'd be many pits around in 2015 even if that was the case but at least it would have given time for people to trickle into different trades over a longer period of time rather than completely decimate entire communities.
     
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    GB84 by David Peace. Novel set in miners strike.
     
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    One thing I will never forget is the spineless NACODS threatening to strike and then lining there pockets with what Thatcher gave them not to .

    If they had supported us the outcome way well have been much different
     
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    Agree with that. If they'd come out it'd have been done.

    Peter Walker **** his pants when it looked like they would.


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    Is it good?
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    Brother was in BACUM and said at the time if they had striked it would have been over in 2 weeks
     
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    I really enjoyed it, but then I love David Peace's style which is quite unusual
     
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    nacods were sold down the river by Ken Sampey their leader,the men gave the mandate to strike but were sold down the river by sampey who accepted the modified review procedure that the board put forward.i think sampey got a mbe,so that tells you something as to where his loyalties lay.
    they got around 80 per cent in favour of strike action but i still reckon notts nacods would have worked regardless,in fact they were already threatning to, had the membership come out on strike.
    i personally dont accept that scargill walked into a trap set by thatcher,i worked at cortonwood and our proposed closure sparked the strike,us,bulcliffe wood,a welsh pit and a scottish pit,all four were threatened with closure.it was the member that called the strike,scargill was simply doing what we requested.
    As a union we were left to rot by the TUC getting practically no support from elsewhere,the ****in power workers being the worst because their leader bluntly said his membership were not their to prop up other unions.
    the real reason we lost the strike was the refusal of areas to strike,like notts ,who continued to work after they had assurances that scargill was lying about any pit closures and that their pits were safe.in actual fact the bulk of their pits closed before our own.
    we were very close to winning the strike as the 30 year ruling on confidential papers shows,had the scabbing basterds in notts come out the strike would have been over in weeks.
     
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    Tremendous book with an awful amount of questions that need answering ...but in the main it is fictional.
     
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    Seemed to remember a guy called Peter McNestry being involved somewhere along the line but not sure what his involvement was.
     
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    Mcnestry was in nacods aswell,but sampey was their leader
     
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    The writing was on the wall to take on the miners under Ted Heath in the 70s but his govt lost the confidence of the electorate as the miners were poorly paid at the time so he took it to the country in a general election and lost.
    The following labour govt who had plan for coal in the 60s and closed mines that were undermanned because of low wages and bad conditions etc,accelerated and improved this plan to the fury of the Tories inparticular Thatcher who had sworn revenge.

    When they eventually got power in 1979 plans were put in progress to take on the industrial heritage of this country and replace it with cheaper options from abroad.
    The coal industry was starved of investment and a divisive incentive scheme was introduced along with a draconian management regime.then left to fester a while so she could concentrate on the rest of the industrial reshaping (the Tories words)

    The Car,Steele and railways were the first to be attacked whilst she simultaneously privatised the telecom and utility industries.
    Union leaders who initially opposed these attacks soon went into regression or early retirement and were later honoured (bstds)

    She left the mining industry last believing us to be isolated and bedraggled and divided by the incentive scheme but what she encountered was a resistance and solidarity unprecedented in the history of working class struggle the world had ever known.
    There's plenty ty of books on the subject and I'm sure Barnsley library would point you in their direction and leave you with a massive choice.
    But whichever way you look upon the strike one thing for sure is the Bravery,solidarity and determination of the ordinary working class with all the power of the state and lies of the media and hostility of the law enforcement shines through in abundance.
     
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    Scargill had mandates from num representative to follow you plank .
     
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