Nardi & our strikers in general

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  1. Googs

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    I really do like Nardi, I just wish he would put more effort in. But it must be highly frustrating for a player like him who likes the ball played into feet around the edge of the penalty area constantly seeing the ball hoofed forward aimlessly (or rather in the direction of Richards' head/chest). He would thrive off a bit of service, but we dont have the players that are creative enough. I'm a big fan of Howard, but without trying to be nasty, he does a lot of stuff for himself - and he's very good as that type of player. We need a player that can really spot a pass. Someone that can play the killer ball. Unfortunately for us these are at a premium and way out of our price range. We simply have to get lucky with a youth, or spot someone in the lower leagues that hasn't yet been picked up. The quality is there IMO up front, but at present we could have Shevchenko or Shearer and without the service, these players wouldn't get goals in ourteam. I think the only player we have in our first team squad that maybe could play this type of role would be Hayes. Maybe a change of system would suit. Im not sure. But the way we are currently playing, the wingers seem almost redundant. We dont score from crosses, we never even look likely to score from crosses. So why play with wingers? 4-3-1-2 with Hayes in the hole could work.</p>

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    IMHO nards needs to learn to mix his game a bit more and not try to beat the man after he has beaten him! i think we get good service from the wings but how often do you see our front men attack the ball?

    I think nards for all his stick for effort has recently improved as a team player i.e at luton he setup howard when he was in a position where he would usually go for glory, and against QPR although lazy he made a good run to move defenders away leaving Richards free.

    For me he could be more than a goalscorer if he played the passes in, how many time has he twisted and turned only to try it again when players around hm are screaming for the ball!?!?

    Although Howard can play wide i prefer him in the middle (maybe play him in the middle for home games with the extra attacking winger and away play him out wide where we can play a center midfielder who protect the back for more?)

    At the start of the season we created a hatfull of chances and would score one in four whereas now we create far less (but look more solid defensively) but we don't take the chances!
     
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    To be fair - we had exactly that kind of player in McPhail and Nardiello didn't thrive then (Chopra did - and there's the contrast). I find Nardiello to be as frustrating as anyone - he is a good finisher, but lacks physical presence and isn't aggressive or determined enough.
     
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    How often did Nardiello and McPhail play together - Nardy spent most of his time on the bench.
     
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    I thought Nardi would 'walk this league (football terms not pace!!!) but he's failed to show it. A good striker would adapt to different systems and he just doesn't seem willing to do it.</p>
     
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    I think if you have a striker who looks to other people (not saying that Nardi is) because he isn't scoring goals - you've got someone who isn't going to make it. It is rarely the fault of the team - the striker has to be held accountable. There are quality strikers who score goals where ever they go, regardless of where they are - and they work hard to do it. I think if Nardiello was going to do it for us he may have shown it by now.
     
  7. Gue

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    Luton and Cardiff... How much more effort could he have put in exactly?!
     
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    Nardiello has proven ability - he just hasn't got consistency. It's alright working your arse off for the play offs, the play off final and a handful of games subsequently - but some days he just doesn't turn up to work.
     
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    <sup><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The majority of games this season (and i'm a season ticket holder, and 6 away games), I have not seen Nardi perform enough.</font></sup>
     
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    The majority of the games I've seen this season it's not just Danny who sould be singled out for criticism.
     
  11. The Full Ponty

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    To be fair to the lad ...

    ... he's not yet realised how **** he is.
    He'll wake up one morning, realise how crap he is ... and get on the next bus to Burton Albion.

    If we put a Kenwood 4 slice toaster in the 18 yard box - it would score more goals.

    He's made a BFC career out of one good game per season.
    Balsa legs, slow, lazy & a bit ****.

    Apart from that - he's probably the best finisher at the club.

    It still makes me howl when people call his name.
    The fecking morons.
     
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    I think we have a number of players who could be criticised this season - but most of them because they lack ability at this level (Heckingbottom for example). Nardiello has ability at this level, and he has shown it too (in patches) the criticism of Nardiello comes from his lack of effort. He is the one who has labelled himself a twenty goal a season man - he doesn't play with the raw hunger or determination of a player who has the single minded determination to make it happen.</p>
     
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    I agree, but the debate at the moment is about Nardiello...... and for me Nardiello is one that always seems to stand out.
     
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    He only stands out because he's built up to be the next big thing, simply because he was once at Man Utd.

    There's all this expectation on his shoulders, but no one elses.
     
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    RE: To be fair to the lad ...

    I don't think he is as bad as you say. I don't think he is slow. He has been injury prone and he does have a tendency to stand with his hands on his hips and wait for the ball to arrive. On his day, when he puts the work in off the ball, makes intelligent runs into the box, get himself into reasonable positions - he looks like our best striker. Other days hejust isn't bothered.
     
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    Yeah he was, but as failed!! To become that great player you need commitment and the drive to suceed. He just doesn't seem to have it. At times this season looked like a lost kid!</p>
     
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    I disagree - the Man U tag died ages ago.</p>

    The thing that keeps fans expectations alive is the player himself - his performances against Leeds this season, his goals in the promotion run (Huddisfield and Swansea), coupled with the fact that he labels himself as a twenty goal a season striker. Some days he looks like he ought to be. Other days he looks like he'd be lucky to get ten.</p>
     
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    RE: To be fair to the lad ...

    Pay me &pound;500 per week, never mind 1K a week and I'll run about making intelligent runs, getting into a decent position and as a little extra will even chase the ball down for you each game!!!</p>
     
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    After the play offs last season I had big hopes for him. He seemed to be interested and up for it..... Whether the injury OR Ritchie changed him, who knows but he just doesn't seem up for the fight.
     
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    He's like tits on a bike.

    Completely pointless.

    He's obviously got some ability ... but so did Hitler - he was allegedly a very good public speaker, but that didn't win him the Nobel Peace prize.

    That's it.
    Nardiello is Hitler.
     

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