nicking an idea from Private Eye - Number Crunching

21 points gained with Stones at Barnsley
33 since he left

Are you seriously suggesting we'd be safe if he had stayed? How can you possibly know, and how can you possibly complain at what we've achieved since? Odd post.

Try this:
£3,000,000 for Stones in January
£1,000,000 in the summer if we'd kept him and gone down anyway

 

Think yer points with and without Stones are wrong there Richie.

 

Possibly, ye he played in the Leeds and Millwall games? so 27 with and 27 without, the last two wins had more to do with Flicker being the boss than him playing though, probably so….
Give or take a couple of points either way I stand by the gist of my post. I't would be extremely hard to imagine us doing any better points wise in the time since the lad left than we have done. Therefore the suggestion somehow that we may go down because we sold him, or indeed that it was any way a contributory factor is extremely unlikely and ofc unproven. Hope that helps.

 

It could be argued it's what we did with stones in the side that has relegated us.

NB not blaming stones in anyway but I do agree that his loss hasn't been defining at all.

 

I just noticed the points were wrong and aint too sure what Farnham meant by this post. You may have the meaning of it right.

 

I think the loss of Golbourne hurt us more.

I said at the time, and still stand by it, that £3m for a raw talent who played 20 odd games for us was good business.

If we go down, I think it's more to do with the last few weeks under Keith Hill, where he lost the plot big time. Especially so far as team selection went. That final game against Blackburn where he dropped Stones/Hassell etc, said it all.

Thankfully, his number two has proven to be everything that was good about Keith, and then some. Minus the abrasive attitude, the ego-maniacal persona, and the paranoid delusions.

Also, it's great that the likes of Steele, Hassell, Foster, Kennedy, Etuhu and Harewood in particular, haven't suffered after some shoddy treatment during Hill's tenure. In fact, all have contributed enormously since Flitcroft got the job.
Not to forget Wiseman, who was used appallingly by Keith. The lad looks twice the man, and ten times the player now.



Sorry for taking this thread into knocking Keith Hill territory.

He did a lot right at Oakwell. I thank him for that. But he pretty much undid all his hard work in the end. But that's what pressure can do, especially to a bloke with his attitude, a bloke who had only ever had everything go his way, and everything go right.

 

If we go down its more to do with the quality of this league rather than any one person flicker has more than made up for the bad start by hill.
It would be quite arrogant in my opinion to say that we wouldn't be in a relegation battle with any team we fielded in the last eight years this season.
Up till last week almost any team could've been in our position from about ninth pace downwards

 

Reightio.