The window's closed and the 1st thing another manager will say is I need these platers etc.. What I woulddo would be, bring in Winny as Director of Football, this should restore a bit of heart in the team as well as tacticall nouse. Then if he can't save us, fook Davey off in the Summer and have Redders working along side Winny to learn the ropes. Then I would make a big attempt to bring back Hignett, Eaden & Liddell and watch us storm League1. Or Winny & Davey keep us up, Leeds go into administration and start next season in League1 on-10 points in front of 4500 fans at Bellend Road!
Davey must go NOW!!!! Its his inability to motivate the current players that is the problem.He's Lost the dressing room and unless he goes then division 1 here we come.
Give me 1 good reason why he should have lost the dressing room? All the players that have been dropped at various times have deserved to be cos they haven't performed and they cant be arsed to play for him then should retire now and stop embarrasing themselves!
Agree with the last part of your statement. Any player who can't give 100% should never play for the club again.Some of the players arnt good enough for the Championship but at least with Ritchie in charge they were committed whereas now they appear to be at odds with Davey and his team selections and tactical ability. Football with Ritchie in charge was at least Entertaining even if we were leaking goals like a sieve. With Davey the quality of football is awful and I cannot see any change to this while he remains at the helm
If, as you say, he's "lost the dressing room" Then there is a serious, deep rooted, problem at Oakwell - because every season we get this when a manager is sacked - i.e. he lost the dressing room. That suggests to me that player power is being allowed to take hold, you have to root out the offenders whoever they are.
Why should they be at odds with his team selection. If they have been dropped its cos they have been **** for example Kay, Heckingbottom, Eckersley, McCann, Nardiello, Hayes etc etc....... It just seems to me he can do no right with the most fickle fans in the country and in my opinion that is the biggest problem with our football club THE SO CALLED FANS!!!!!
RE: If, as you say, he's "lost the dressing room" It just goes to prove that stability and perseverance was what was required and not a knee-jerk sacking at the first hint of trouble. We are now back to square 1 with Davey trying to establish his mark and build his team and rid himself of Ritchies legacy. That'll take a couple of seasons because ridding himself of Ritchies legacy means Richards, Kay, Hayes and probably Howard and Devaney will be the ones to be rid off.Oh, andNardiello and Hassell too, perhaps?Oh, and Tonge and .... etc.
The Problem is Deep rooted and lies with the current Board. There the one's who sacked Ritchie and appointed Davey. When we go down will Davey be a better prospect than Ritchie to bring us back up? I don,t think so!! We Had stabilty with Ritchie and became seriously destablised when he was Sacked. Are we in a better position now than when Ritchie went? The answer to this has to be a resounding NO
Agree with you there It was the wrong decision to sack Ritchie and I said so at the time. Sacked for not bringing players in! Well looking at what we have brought in since I think it's more a case of the players on offer he didn't want because they were no better than we had. Still, Shepherd knows better about players doesn't he?!
So do you think he's doing a good job? At the end of the day the fans pay the players wages and are entitled to their opinion. When we are witnessing the football that is being served up at the moment haven't the fans got a right to call for the managers head? My opinion is that with Davey in charge we are heading to OBLIVION
Resounding no i dont think so! I didn't want Ritchie sacked but many on here did! By the way Ritchie got 15 points from 18 games Davey has got 17 points from 15 games and we are 1 position higher so we are in better shape FACT!!!
It proves nothing of the sort. Perseverance was only taking us one way.</p> Ritchie persevered with the same team and the same tactics week in, week out. We were 23rd in the table when he departed and in total freefall. I am at an absolute loss to see what good it would have done to allow it to continue.</p> Or is rapid, unchecked decline OK as long it's stable, rapid, unchecked decline? </p>
RE: It proves nothing of the sort. I think you'll have more idea what a rapid unchecked decline is by August! </p> Contract negotaitions seem to be a bit slow don't they?</p>
So you say we are in better shape. Quality of football DIRE, Conceding goals for fun,prospects of survival with Davey Nil! Andy Ritchie should have been given a contract at the end of last season for bringing promotion to the Fans. Towards the end of Ritchie's Reign all the bickering about contract negotiations began to reflect in the performances on the field resulting in the Dreadful Display at Crystal Palace. Without this bickering maybe the performances would have been more like at Hull and Sheffield Wednesday Away for example. PASSION, PRIDE,COMMITMENT, PROUD TO WEAR THE SHIRT unlike what we have at present.
RE: It proves nothing of the sort. No slower than expected, to be honest.</p> We are in the relegation zone - our stock is therefore low in the contract stakes. Why would a player coming to the end of his contract take the risk of signing up with a club who don't know what division they'll be in next year? </p> Or do you honestly think these players' love for Ritchie would have overcome this and they'd be itching to sign up regardless? </p> As for where we're headed under Davey, frankly early signs are not good. On this we agree. What I don't see is why Davey's failings seem to mean to some that Ritchie was by default the best option. </p>
Be interesting to see if Gord applies the same points per game criteria for sackings as he did with Ritchie. Unless, of course, spending money on players my 70-year-old Dad could play off the park makes him exempt.
I agree about Ritchie as i said in the previous post and when i posted that Ritchie should have been given a new contract earlier in the season i got laughed out of town. What iam saying is this we have gained more points under Simon Davey than Andy Ritchie and that im afraid is FACT!!! Also this about conceding **** loads of goals i think you will find the defensive record under Davey is far better than under Ritchie only the last 2 games have made it look crap! Under Ritchie we conceded 36 goals in 18 games thats 2 every game! Under Davey in 15 games we have conceded 22. Kept 5 clean sheets under Davey compared to 1 under Ritchie! FACT!