No Stones clause

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  1. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

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    Apparently confirmed by an unnamed source in the Chronicle.

    I thought it was well documented that we'd accepted a flat £3 million from Everton by Don?

    Issue here is us fanning the flames when asked in the media recently.
     
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    Is or has someone at the club been telling porkies then?
     
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    Ben has a lot to answer for then, by putting the idea there was clauses, in everyone's head.
     
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    Same source that said a takeover was imminent ?
     
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    Issue here is us fanning the flames when asked in the media recently.[/QUOTE]

    Sorry ,what do you mean by that
     
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    Same person who told us takeover was only days away?
     
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    I mean that if indeed there is no clause, why did Ben imply there was in that interview?

    We'll never officially know. But I seem to recall Don saying that we'd accepted a flat £3 million from Everton.
     
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    I doubt it.
     
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    I get it now
     
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    Who at the club then would want to undermine Mansford, and has contacts with the Chron ?

    Assuming the Chron aren't being creative.
     
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    Not a clue. I doubt the Chron would write something that is factually incorrect. The takeover stuff is different, there were talks apparently but maybe leading with that headline in hindsight wasn't the right thing to do...
     
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    Was a question raised regarding Stones and a ckause at the recent supporters meeting and if not then why not?
     
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    Lol, an 'un-named' source might well have said there is no clause. It's factually correct that he/she said it.

    Is it factually correct that there is no clause ?
     
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    I don't. Doesn't mean he didn't of course, I didn't hear/read it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I'd be surprised though, because Ben Mansford has said there were confidentiality clauses signed when the transfer took place. Don Rowing doesn't strike me as the type of chap who would break those clauses. Let's be reight, he kept things very close to his chest, there may be some fair criticisms of Don Rowing, but the man was certainly discreet. I suppose Ben Mansford could have lied about the confidentiality clauses, but I don't buy that either. Spin and propaganda yes, but flat out lies? I can't see it.

    Anyway, if Don Rowing had already confirmed the transfer fee, why would Ben Mansford be trying to hide it? It wasn't a deal he was involved in, whatever we got for John Stones cannot reflect badly on Ben, he wasn't even at the club. If there were no confidentiality clauses and Don Rowing had already confirmed the transfer fee I cannot think of one good reason for Ben to answer the way he has done in recent interviews. What would be his motivation? I suppose he could be protecting the reputation of our owner, but we employed Don Rowing to broker transfer deals. Patrick Cryne may be more hands on than he has ever admitted to, but he doesn't work in the club shop, he doesn't order the office stationary and he doesn't negotiate our transfer dealings.

    If what The Chronicle are saying is right, then Ben Mansford's interviews don't make any sense. If it is a flat £3 million and no add-ons, then why was Ben speaking of the complicated structure of the deal? You can have a flat rate and a confidentiality clause, but such a deal does not result in the answers Ben has given. Even if you're being economical with the truth, they don't.
     
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    I dunno. I thought that is what Don had said when he was here because there was a bit of monk on at the time. He might have said it in one of these supporter meetings but I thought that was the understanding.

    Who knows if it's true? It's the same as any report. I do reckon that whoever has said it (if they have, I've not even seen the paper) they must be a reasonable source or otherwise it could be one of us d.ck heads ringing up.
     
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    You seem to be giving this more credence than what Mansford has said on the matter. Whilst cynicism and scepticism is good, look at what Jay's said - what has Mansford to gain from intimating that we'd benefit from Stones' international career ?
     
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    Maybe it's me dreaming it. Probably, I do dream about this ****.

    And I agree with you, if it is true, it makes no sense. If it's not, the Chron have been lied to.
     
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    Are they saying there are no add-on clauses? Or just not one that kicks in if Stonsie is selected for England?
     
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    I dunno, I've not read it. Just going on a few people talking about it.

    Note to Dyson - read an article before mentioning it in future...
     
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    The Cron says no clause for international appearances, but a large sell-on fee from future transfers.
     

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