No, we've never been promised a top 6 finish

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  1. Ext

    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    How those words are coming back to haunt them!

    Thanks for posting the interview
     
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    After listening to that statement , it is unbelievable that Johnson is in a job. " it was hard to get shut of Danny Wilson, who had managed 1000 games". "The results were not acceptable ". And so on and so on. How can they still keep Johnson in a job, a man whose results are off the map. A man who is basically an apprentice compared to Danny.
    I was not fully convinced that Wilson was our best bet, but listening to Mansford I think he was hard done by. My take on all this is that the Board has dropped a massive clanger and have backed themselves into a massive hole.
    The boss is not prepared to pay Johnson off, and are now trying to take the cheaper route out by getting older players in on loan. A big gamble with a rookie manager.
    Time will tell
     
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    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem they've created for themselves - whether or not you think Johnson should go - by their own previous standards he should be sacked irrespective.
     
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    was said in a different thread earlier this week. Danny should never have been sacked, as he was however the board should have been honest about the reasons. they panicked IMO and are now reaping what they have sewn. who loses out? us lot as usual.
     
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    "Run of 5 defeats in 8 games"

    Fails to mention the other 3 games were all won, so sacked on the back of 3 wins in 8. He also won 4 of his last 9, stats eh?
     
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    But Danny wasn't mates with Mr B Mansford was he...unlike Mr L Johnson!

    Mr B Mansford is a very untrustworthy and slippery character.......needs to go along with his mate Mr L Johnson
     
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    I felt at the time that sacking Wilson was right - on performance as much as result - what I can't get my head round though is the blatant two-facedness.

    If the same criteria were applied to Johnson he'd have been sacked at least half a dozen games (sorry, I mean losses!) ago.

    It has to be pointed out as a stinking inconsistency, in fact as long as he continues in the role (unless we start winning a lot - can't see that under this setup) the whole club will have a foul stench about it.

    None of the previous managers were given this long when results weren't going their way, none of them had results anything like as bad as Johnson, and flicker aside, the others had a good and relatively lengthy job history proving their ability to do the job generally, Johnson hasn't.

    I'm at the stage where I'm wondering what exactly it is Johnson knows and who exactly it's about - as unless there's a dark secret somebody wants keeping, there is absolutely no reason to keep him - from a footballing or business perspective. The team is awful, the crowds are dropping - he's still here. Why?

    Mansford spoke on sacking Wilson about crowd numbers and a business decision, results weren't good enough, and we were looking towards the top of the table. We are lower in the table, points per game is much, much lower, we are in genuine relegation trouble and the gates are dropping like flies.
     
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    The most baffling & infuriating decision since I've been a supporter. Never been angrier with BFC than I was for those few weeks after that.
     
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    Still infuriates me, to this day. Foul stench indeed Troff.
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    he has slipped his way into the fold at Barnsley College!

    Has he given any lectures yet?
     
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    Me too.
     
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    anybody other than danny wilson, and nowt would have been mentioned.

    why isn't anyone bemoaning the sacking of flicker? a guy who miraculously saved us, got sacked, then went on to getting a L2 relegation team promoted and currently sits in the L1 play offs. never gets a mention.
     
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    I thought Flicker was the real deal and was over the moon at his appointment but for some reason he totally lost the plot and had to go.

    The last time I saw a Barnsley team play with passion n guts was under Flicker although we did show some ballax against Everton this season.
     
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    Couple of reasons

    1. The context of that season was there'd been heavy investment to give Flitcroft everything he wanted. Whilst it felt early to get shut, we were awful & it felt like we'd gone away from the successful style that had seen us stay up.
    2. Relegation scared the **** out of us & a change in gaffer can often help.
    3. The whole context of starting again with Danny, building from the bottom up & the late recruitment of the Summer.
    4. We were never in danger of relegation, mid table & going through an average patch.


    That's why it f.cked me off.
     
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    I did at the time.
     
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    i didn't agree with wilson being sacked mate. still don't. i also don't think we'd be where we are, if wilson was still here. it's just this idea that it's the worst decision the club have ever made, and that he was the man to turn the club round, and that sacking him is some kind of defining moment in the club's future. i don't think it's any of those things. i also don't think people would be saying any of that, if it had been anybody other than danny wilson. past & present tells me that.
     
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    That wasn't the point of my posting the press conference.
     
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    Because for once people higher up seem to be taking responsibility for the outcome of their strategy and not hanging the manager (or head coach ) out to dry. I'm guessing they've sussed the imbalance of the squad is at the core of our problems and are hoping to address that in January and intend to give Johnson a fair chance once they've put right their failings. Which has more chance of happening if we have resources to invest in players rather than blowing it on paying off the head coach.
     

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