new measure by osbourne to get money from bankers,chief execs etc. all measures to hit workers,families and benefits. an absolute disgrace, "all in it together"
Yerbut..... >5% increase on some benefits but only 1% capped for Public sector for 2 years when present pay freeze ends. So how does that fit with encouraging people back to work?? Muddled thinking and they haven't a clue. Incidentally - Business section on BBC website shows median pensions for Public Sector is around £300 pa LESS than Private sector median pension (circa £6800). What a surprise it isn't being widely reported by Tory Nick Robinson and the mainstream TV media in general. Red West please note
Re: Yerbut..... Using a median calculation when comparing the public and private sectors gives a very misleading figure. It would be more accurate to compare a public and private sector worker both on the same salary, worked out across the same period and with the very different employee contributions factored in. I am pretty sure the results would be more reflective of the real pension picture.
we're all in it together - Osborne's family tree Firstly, I don't think anyone can really suggest the public sector don't have, on balance, better pensions. For me the issue is this government is trying to bring everyone down to the pitifully low level of some in the private sector when it is actually they who need bringing up to a decent level. Still that's the Tories for you we're all in it together with Gideon and Dave - here's Osborne's family tree for those that don't know: Osborne Baronets, of Ballintaylor and Ballylemon (1629) Sir Richard Osborne, 1st Baronet (d. c. 1667) Sir Richard Osborne, 2nd Baronet (d. 1685) Sir John Osborne, 3rd Baronet (c. 1645-1713) Sir Richard Osborne, 4th Baronet (c. 1714) Sir Thomas Osborne, 5th Baronet (c. 1715) Sir Nicholas Osborne, 6th Baronet (c. 1685-1719) Sir John Osborne, 7th Baronet (c. 1697-1743) Sir William Osborne, 8th Baronet (d. 1783) Sir Thomas Osborne, 9th Baronet (1757–1821) Sir William Osborne, 10th Baronet (1817–1824) Sir Henry Osborne, 11th Baronet (d. 1837) Sir Daniel Toler Osborne, 12th Baronet (1783–1853) Sir William Osborne, 13th Baronet DL and JP (16 October 1805–2 July 1875). Osborne was the son of Sir Daniel Osborne, 12th Baronet, and Lady Harriet Le Poer, daughter of William Trench, 1st Earl of Clancarty. He was a Deputy Lieutenant and Justice of the Peace. He married Maria (d. 25 October 1875), daughter of William Thompson, of Clonfin, County Longford, on 22 July 1842. They had no children. He died in July 1875, aged 69, and was succeeded by his younger brother, Charles.[1] Sir Charles Stanley Osborne, 14th Baronet (1825–1879) Sir Francis Osborne, 15th Baronet (1856–1948) Sir George Francis Osborne, 16th Baronet MC (27 July 1894–21 July 1960). Osborne was the son of Sir Francis Osborne, 15th Baronet, and Kathleen Eliza Whitfield. He was educated at Repton School and the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, and fought in the First World War, where he was twice wounded, mentioned in despatches and awarded the Military Cross, eventually gaining the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel in the Royal Sussex Regiment. Osborne married as his second wife Mary Grace Horn (died 1987), daughter of Clement Samuel Horn, of Goring-by-Sea, Worthing, Sussex, on 27 February 1938. They had two sons and two daughters. He died in July 1960, aged 65, and was succeeded by his eldest son, Peter.[2] Sir Peter George Osborne, 17th Baronet (b. 1943) George Gideon Oliver Osborne, heir apparent is the present holder's eldest son (b. 1971) who is the Chancellor of the Exchequer since May 2010 Heir apparent's heir, Luke Osborne, (b. 2001)
Re: we're all in it together - Osborne's family tree Amen to that because despite paying in a reasonable amount (as much as I can afford) my pension forecast is pretty poor. Even with my small Army pension on top my standard of living is going to be significantly reduced when I finally get to retire.
Re: we're all in it together - Osborne's family tree That's a familiar story that is r kid. I have also got a private pension, good job because my gold plated public pension (the one I pay a reasonable amount into) won't be enough either.
Re: we're all in it together - Osborne's family tree Well at least it'll be cheaper to get into Oakwell. And despite you being younger than me (only just) you get to live in poverty sooner. What a great system
