OK - so it's the Sun and you might therefore scoff, but

if this report is true, then it's just one more sad sad reason for regretting showing compassion to people whose own homeland has not lived up to their expectations, yet they feel they can behave as they want to and take liberties with the law abiding citizens and their protectors in another country that offers them safety and sanctuary.</p>

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005540261,00.html</p>

 

Hmmm Beshenivsky, is that a typical British name?

 

Does that make it OK then?

 

Not at all, that wasn't my point. It's the hypocrisy of saying that a crime is somehow worse when committed by immigrants and that immigrants are genetically predisposed to commit crime. Was just intrigued that the PC in this case has evidentally married into an Eastern European family and people are still highlighting the racial issues.

 

There you go again....

Racial, racial, racial.......always racial isn't it?</p>

My point was that an appalling crime appears to have been committed by people who allegedly cannot live in their own country because of fear or torture, but feel quite able to cause murder and mayhem in one that offers them hope of peace and freedom.</p>

That is a stark and terrible fact, and it has got nothing to do with race, no matter how you try to distort it.</p>

 

RE: There you go again....

You don't know that this crime was committed by asylum seekers, only that asylum seekers have been questioned.

I'm not trying to "distort" this issue as I wasn't the one highlighting the involvement of asylum seekers in the investigation.

I would have thought that the "issue" was not about who committed the crime but how it was allowed to happen? Two unarmed officers dealing with an armed robbery in progress.

 

RE: There you go again....

But the Sun, by the tone of their reporting, are seeking to turn it into one. The BNP and their ilk will use this to their own ends.
The crime is abhorent, no matter who it is committed by, and for me the fact that they may have been asylum seekers is irrelevent. If they were granted asylum that that will have been done so based upon the same criteria as many others who do live to the laws of the land. They should be punished in accordance with the laws of the land.

 

Well, now I've heard it all !

&quot;I would have thought that the &quot;issue&quot; was not about who committed the crime but how it was allowed to happen? Two unarmed officers dealing with an armed robbery in progress.&quot;
</p>

So, raiding a travel agents and beating up the occupants, then shooting two Policewomen is not the issue - but how it was allowed to happen is? </p>

 

RE: There you go again....

..should hang em cop killers.in fact anyone who kills..also pedephiles / rapists / and you're right they come here to be (safe) then cause **** in our country..and me i aint racist...:S

 

Red Rag

I understand and agree with your point.

 

RE: Well, now I've heard it all !

It's a terrible crime mate but you have no point. You're either saying "how can a crime like this be committed by asylum seekers, given what they have been through?" or you're not. Either way you're implying that the offence would be lesser if it had been committed by people who were born British.

And you don't think that there's an police procedure issue surrounding this?

 

RE: There you go again....

What about the 90 yr old bloke who smothers his cancer ridden wife with a pillow? Should he be hanged?

 

Yes

Hang everyone, every last fecker. The whole world's ballaxed anyway. No hope for anyone.

Now back to the Daily Mail.

 

RE: There you go again....

got me on that one..smart arse....(banghead) ...

 

RE: There you go again....

I just think before I post

 

RE: Well, now I've heard it all !

No I am certainly not!</p>

Anyone British committing the same crime would be just as bad, just as punishable, just as regrettable.</p>

My simple, fruitless, unimportant and very pathetic little point was the terrible irony, call it what you like, of opening your doors and offering friendship, acceptance, security or whatever to someone from another country, who pleads to stay here for protection because his own country has failed him, then goes out armed on the streets and kills someone for his own gain.</p>

A bit like you taking pity on someone homeless for the night and allowing them to sleep in your spare room out of the rain - only to find when you wake up that they've nicked your wallet, poisoned the dog and **** all over the kitchen floor.</p>

By your philosophy that wouldn't be an issue then? It would be the circumstances leading up to it - ie, you letting them in in the first place so it could happen.</p>

 

RE: There you go again....

ho... ho..got to be exceptions ..i suppose..no need to be sarky..

 

RE: Well, now I've heard it all !

well put..(Y)

 

RE: There you go again....

not being sarky at all mate. You're perfectly entitled to say what you like if you beleive it. I'm just saying that sometimes it's better thinking stuff through a bit. Saves argumentative twits like me replyingff

 

RE: There you go again....

ok...i'll try better in future ...