One thing I've never understood

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  1. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    Why do managers still stand on the touchline? It seems daft to try and judge tactical aspects of a game from such a limited perspective. I get it's easier to bollock people but a manager must be able to better assess the game from an elevated viewpoint. Why don't more managers sit in the stand and be in contact with their number 2 at pitchside who can dish out instructions/bollockings as required?
     
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    Who was it who used to do first half in the stand top tier and then obviously go in at HT then be on touchline for 2nd half? Was it big Sam at Bolton?
     
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    I have the same problem with quantum physics, makes no sense.
     
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    Jim Iley used to sit in the Stand (Directors box)
     
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    Brush Well-Known Member

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    Iley IN then...
     
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    Is that where the "Iley Out" chant first got sung, by the Board members?
     
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    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    Chinese algebra.
     
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    I once sat by the dugouts for a premier league game at Bolton and i realised why managers make so many stupid substitutions. It's because they can't see the match properly.
     
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    For me it's always been Chinese writing.
     
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    Yeah, think it was Big Sam. He got a mic wired up when sat in stand, then came into dug in 2nd half.

    Good way of doing it tbf.
     
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    Because these days, clubs employ analysts to do this and feedback into the manager. The higher up the leagues you go, the more complex and bigger this is. Feedback monitors etc at side of benches. Barnsley have an iPad in dugout for same reason.

    So in other words - they do it, but remotely.
     
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    Cheers for this, think I'd seen a documentary on him or something where they monitored his blood pressure and heart rate, needless to say it went through the roof
     
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    Gary Neville recently did an interview in which he said he struggled as a manager to get an insightful perspective from such a low down position as the dugout.

    Personally I prefer to watch a game from an elevated position as I think you get more a feel for the flow and tactical contest.

    But, you know, Gary Neville.
     
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    I think all players should have electrodes attached to them and then managers can sit in the stand and deliver electric shocks to those who aren't doing their jobs reight.
     
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    It bugs me why the 4th official isn't at the opposite side to the team benches. Just gets 90 mins of earache.
    Or at least in a perspex enclosed DMZ or similar.
     
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    Don't the benches need to report intended substitutions to the 4th official?
     
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    Fan/Owner appeasement. Just putting on a show.

    Of course it's a terrible view of the action. Absolutely everyone knows this. But there are still a significant number of fans who believe that unless the manager is stood pitch side shouting and balling then he's a poor manager. There were hundreds of comments lambasting Collins on here this season because he wasn't as animated pitch side as some fans believe he should have been.

    And there are still a significant number of owners who listen to fans who shout and ball, no matter the rationality or legitimacy of what they're shouting. We sacked a manager with one game to go while in the play-offs.

    So if you're a manager, why give your detractors the ammunition? Stand by the dugout, wave your arms about a bit, then watch the replay later that evening to get a proper look at the game.
     
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    He has to hold up the board for subs, could be a bit awkward from the other side of the pitch
     
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    A minor detail.
    Mobile phones. It's the future.
    Or a Substitute Request app, available in all good app stores.
     
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    Going back some years - it was Nigel Spackman who insisted the club change the old dug outs on the west stand. He said they were too low, cramped and damp. (Obviously designed not to block spectator views).

    The current benches are what were fitted at his request. Which also helped as permitted Matchday subs also increased some years later too.
     

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