Orgreave and the Miners Strike had a bigger impact than Hillsborough

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  1. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    Heard John Mann MP a few months ago saying that Hillsborough was a bigger tragedy than the miners strike

    NO IT WASN'T !!!!!!!

    As sad as Hillsborough was........the battle of Orgreave and the miners strike had a much much bigger detrimental impact on the lives of people

    Its incalculable the loss the miners strike has had on mining communities throughout the country........men dying earlier than what they should have, no work, no prospects, nothing - for thousands and thousands of people
     
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    I don't think it's appropriate to compare the two events, one way or the other. Both deserve individual respect.
     
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    How can you possibly differentiate between two completely different disasters? Shouldn't even be trying it's incredibly disrespectful IMHO.

    My tragedy's worse than your tragedy? Come on Nudge you're better than that.
     
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  4. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    John Mann MP compared the two.
    I'm adding to that debate.
     
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  5. Shy Talk

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    Then he's disrespectful too. IMHO.
     
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    Ridiculous post - can't compare the two - both tragic events but for very different reasons. Still believe police have a lot to answer for during the strike and their role needs investigating
     
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    Words fail me.
     
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  8. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    Wow just wow.
     
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    Out of interest how did the miners strike cause men to die earlier than they should have ?
     
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    Deary me...

    You do realise that families of the Hillsborough victims have supported the inquiry into Orgreave on many occasions?

    We should support and celebrate their justice in return.
     
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    Nope. You've also compared the two.
     
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  12. Jack Tatty

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    And I'll finish your debate by saying it's not a debate.
     
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    i think john mann will be referring to SYP,Their cover ups,falsifying statements and generally trying to make themselves blameless,all these were common to both orgreave and hillsborough.
     
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    Stupid and insensitive post.
     
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    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    I miss Hemsy.
     
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    Hemsy > this clown.
     
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    You could argue by getting men out of the dangerous working conditions it actually increased life expectancy in the region.
     
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    **** me drunk.

    I really don't know what to say to that, or at least add to what other people have said.

    Maybe it was a comparison began by another, one which maybe shouldn't have been aired, although I can kind of see his point. You then went and added a rather insensitive opinion to the contrary, so actually your post is uncalled for and unjust. You didn't just post his comment, you went against it and typed in caps to further make your point.

    All said and done Nudger you've made yourself look like a bit of an insensitive pr1ck.
     
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    Impact on who? The driver on the M5 who was killed by a miner dropping a rock off the M'way bridge?
     
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    Lives were affected in different ways but are not comparable in any way shape or form.
    Many miners could not get work after orgreave leaving suspicions of a blacklist .
    Go to the Durham miners gala in July and you'll see and hear the outcome of the cover up by those still affected.

    First justice for Hillsborough now Its Orgreave and the Rotherham cover up.they have nowhere to hide now the momentum must be maintained , anyone who abuses their position is an affront to democracy.
     
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