Patrick needs to be talking 'Blunt' prices

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  1. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    Every player has got his price. You only have to look at Ronaldo to realise this.

    And all the supporters at Barnsley don't mind players being sold - AS LONG AS WE GET A DECENT PRICE FOR THEM

    Unfortunately in the past this hasn't happened under the stewardship of Patrick.

    Example - Jon Stones was sold for peanuts even though before he had got regularly into the first team, 'Barnsley Chronicle' articles by such as Bobby Hassel were proclaiming that we had a 'Rolls Royce' (actual words used) of a player within the ranks.

    Everyone at the club knew this after seeing Stones play...............except, it seems, for the Directors.

    We now have a situation where we have another couple of highly rated youngsters.

    I would urge Patrick to take a leaf out of the Blunts (Sheffield United) book of 'How To Sell Players and get the Best Price for Them'.

    They had two decent young players........the two Kyles.......Kyle Naughton and Kyle Walker............and got £5 MILLION for each of them.
    They have sold garbage for at least £1 MILLION............e.g. Jordan Slew.
    Over the last 10 year they must have received something in the region of £40 MILLION for players they have sold.


    For the sake of the club - its about time Patrick and the rest of the Directors realised the true value of the players we have got.
     
  2. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    Don't think the blunts have sell on clauses for either though.


    We could end up with 6.5million plus for Stones and over one million for Holgate which isnt bad going for two players who have each played less than 40 games for the club.
     
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    Of you were so knowledgeable why didn't you tell Patrick how much JS was really worth then? ??
     
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    He did, through the medium of a chicken dance and a bit of pointing.
     
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    At the end of the day, isn't it Patrick's money? So if he wanted to give a player away even, that would be entirely up to him. So whether the supporters 'mind' is really irrelevant, isn't it?
     
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    I love BFC and i think what LJ is achieving to date is brilliant but this is my single biggest annoyance with them. As you say we acknowledge we have to sell players but why do we always give them away on the cheap. Under previous management Shackell for 1M and Vaz Te for 500k are recent examples and despite all the excitement about getting £4-5M in sell on fees for Stones, £2.2M was just far too low to sell at. £1M for Holgate is too low too.

    Sheff Utd had a promising centre half called Harry Maguire, they turned down bids of £1M and £1.5M before eventually selling him for £2.5M.
    Last season Peterborough sold Britt Assombalonga for over £5M. Or was it £8M?

    Yet at Oakwell we seem to continually under value our assets.

    I totally get that if the players heart and mind isn't in it why do we want to keep him. And we are a small club without a huge fan base and are totally reliant on Patrick Cryne's generosity
    Maybe there s a fear that if we don't sell them they will leave for nothing and we will lose the money we could have had.

    Going back to the rolls royce scenario, if you had a nice one worth £50K sat on the drive and someone offered you £20k its unlikely you would sell it.

    I do genuinely fear that if Winnall has scored 10 goals come xmas some one will offer 500k and he will be on his way.
     
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    Maybe the reason we have a substantial sell on clause is because we only took 2 million up front, I don't believe for one minute the powers at be didn't know what John stones was worth in my humble uneducated opinion I think they took a gamble to end up with more cash if he progressed as they expected, a gamble that appears to have come off
     
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    I still remember when we sold flinders to palace for a million we robbed em blind. If holgate gos for a million not too bothered because end of season we will get even less at a tribunal. But I fear if winnall stays fit and his banging em in come january he will be gone but like you say we arent a massive club we have to do this to survive
     
  9. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    According to previous posts on here - the 'powers that be' have admitted that they didn't actual know how good John Stones was.

    Which, if true, is astonishing.....................and fills me with dread

    Although at the time, to be fair, Patrick was out of action as he was poorly and Don Rowing was in charge.

    Maybe the younger person in Ben Mansford understands the value of players better than Don did............lets hope so.
     
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    phil Well-Known Member

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    I too would find it astonishing which is why I don't believe it, perhaps they said that because it sounds better than we're taking a gamble on him being sold for mega bucks. Imagine the uproar on here if we didn't take say 4 million in the hope of getting 6 a few yrs later
     
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    10 years ago SUFC were on their way to the Premiership. Now they can't get out of third tier football.

    I would not advocate that our transfer policy be based on that of a club that has declined so massively as a result of its very transfer policy.
     
  12. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    They also had £3.5 MILLION for the Tevez debacle............and they have a Chairman that has thrown something like another £50 MILLION at the project...............but what has that to do with the position they find themselves in ???

    All it says to me is that they have foooked up BIG TIME !!!

    And I would put this down to a Chairman (McCabe) that knows nothing about football and who has made some terrible decisions in his appointment of managers.

    Which is unlike Patrick, who in my opinion has not appointed one bad manager and that includes HillFlicker (no matter what people say, but that's another story).

    Basically what I am saying here is that if Patrick can get some money together one way or another then under his stewardship we should then be flying.
     
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    There's no way we would have ended up selling Stones for more than seven million straight cash. We missed out by not insisting for three million up front, with a 20-25% sell on fee. That would probably have been a realistic deal and could have seen us pocket around 10-12 million in total.
     
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    This. 100% this.
     
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    I love all these SOMETHING LIKE £50 MILLION you're throwing around.

    Basically you saying you havent a clue and you want to prove your stupidity to the BBS yet again. You always manage to do that.
     

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