PC can't win... Who ever PC appoints as the new manager he will be criticised.....

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  1. Joh

    Johnny the tyke Well-Known Member

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    I would be more than happy with Mark Robins as new manager

    A manager in demend..... Rotherham fans want to keep him..... other clubs admire him, he is young, ambitious and has good contacts in the game.... also a decent player in his day.

    He cannot be compared to Steve Parkin. Rochdale weren't exactly hitting dizzy heights of L2, promotion push at best. Rotherham are tipped for promotion this year and most people seem to think we will be relegated so I feel PC would do well to convince him to come here.
     
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    Thats ******

    as previously mentioned by several people on here, there are candidates available that would get almost unanimous support. Mark Robins will be as unpopular an appointment as Davey. Even those putting out the "Im prepared to give him time" line, will know if it'll be against the odds if he turns out to be half decent.
     
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    Mast/colours/nails interface.

    Go on iron.
     
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    5pm every Saturday

    Davey out. Now that would be very childish and immature.
     
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    You need to start logging every slightest fcking thing he does and says.

    That'd be the actions of a real super tyke.</p>

    Think it was a Rotherham fan on Radio Sheff made the point that Robins is a big fish in a small pond there and would he transfer the same amount of respect and success to us ? That was a good point I thought.</p>

    Anyway once he's here get behind 'em. Not guaranteed he'll sign though....
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    RE: Thats ******

    I'm still waiting for this evidence you have that he won't be able to do a decent job
     
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    You say that but I wouldn't really want Paul Jewell

    great successes and abject failures. Also why is it against the odds he'll be half decent ? Martinez wasn't shabby at Swansea... yes I know for every Martinez there's a Mr xxx failure. I appreciate that some of your criticism of the potential appointment may be as a result of the constant battle you had to defend Davey against a sometimes 'baying mob' but doesn't that mean you should give Robins the same open minded approach or do you want to light up torches now and have a witch hunt </p>

    I would have liked Wilson who's record since leaving Wednesday has been ok but that would have been far from a unanimous choice.</p>

    Dave</p>
     
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    When you're in Admin, with a points deduction, fighting against the authorities

    motivating players is an easy task. Robins is getting the job on the basis of a relegation fight in League 2, where it was the club against the world. That experience might come in handy, maybe thats what Patrick is preparing us for.
     
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    RE: When you're in Admin, with a points deduction, fighting against the authorities

    You're just deliberately trying to upset folk now aren't you ?
     
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    One interview, one candidate

    head hunted a League 2 manager from the nearest professional club geographically. His track record isnt inspiring in League 2 either - if it was a manager who'd at least experienced a promotion, that would be something. His knowledge of the Championship is basically zero, he'll have spent 2 years scouting players from non league and other League 2 clubs, to fit them into a style of play to succeed in League 2. Its Steve Parkin all over again.

    Terrible, terrible day for Barnsley football club if he gets the job.
     
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    RE: Thats ******

    His record in League 2 is: P128 W55 L43 D30. Thats 42% win ratio in League 2. The majority of which were when Rotherham were in Admin and battling to survive.

    is that enough?
     
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    There's reasoning behind your points but

    if you look for managers with sound experience then you could be Leicester and get Ian Holloway. As for Robins in league 2 wouldn't he have achieved a play off spot last season but for -17 and this year aren't they 2nd in this embryonic season. Not the greatest of credentials but hardly failing. Big step up to the championship maybe but only similar to the jump from youth coach which you, and in fairness I were prepared to support ?
     
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    Prepare for signings

    like Paul Gibbs, Gary Jones and Mike Flynn. Ones that he thinks can 'step up'.
     
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    Don't mention Mike Flynn please.

    I'd rather have the big sprout that chap's grown in Pilley at centre half.
     
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    But come on

    those managers dont suddenly become bad, its circumstances that conspire more than their ability. Watch Holloway go at Blackpool. Paul Jewell and Phil Brown failed at Derby but arent suddenly bad managers. They are able to attract the players that make teams successful, thats how you become a decent manager, by results. Mark Robins has no profile whatsoever, its already a difficult task getting players to sign for us, he'll just make it nigh on impossible. Unless were signing players from lower leagues that he knows a bit about. For christsakes, you're not even convinced of your argument yourself. Lets be honest, its a hugely disappointing appointment. It might work, but its no surprise if it doesnt.
     
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    Blimey, you're making sound like Simon Davey. I'm surprised you haven't got a shrine in place already.
     
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    RE: Thats ******

    Not really

    Without the points deductions he would have attained 75 points both seasons and would have finished 8th in his first season and 5th last season

    I'm not saying he's going to do a good job but somehow you've convinced yourself he won't which is mental
     
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    We've heard you, mate.

    Over and over and over and over again.
     
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    Compare to Paul Ince's record at MK Dons

    P55 W33 D10 L12

    Two promotions under his belt and going well so far in League 1.

    Im with you, we should be aspirational, there's no reason why we shouldnt be aiming for a top half finish. In appointing a new manager, that is a fundamental in trying to achieve that. Mark Robins, to me, smacks of defeatism, ie we cant get anyone better so lets settle for him. Make no mistake, if this season turns into one long relegation battle, it'll be due in most part to this decision.
     
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    RE: Compare to Paul Ince's record at MK Dons

    Should have sacked Davey in May and got Ince for free but they missed the boat

    If (it is to be belived) that Jewell ruled himself out and Boothroyd has already gone to Colchester (!) there isn't a lot of choice

    Look at other clubs - Swansea have appointed a no mark, QPR replaced him with someone on the way down and West Brom appointed a manager who had done ok in League One.
     

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