People Will Feel Sorry For Johnson

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  1. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    When he inevitably gets the sack.

    Not me. He will be the architect of his own downfall and the only person to blame.
     
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    I won't because he will receive a good amount of money that would probably be able to pay off my mortgage.


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    That will save me from helping you out!!!
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Go on - give him some brass.
     
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    Tell us all then what he should have done different which would have us higher up the league table

    And you reckon its all his fault?

    Do You think he could bring in experience players in if he wanted to ?.

    how long before you want the next manager out.

    You are the most miserable negative poster on this board choose who is in charge
     
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    The thing that I keep pondering over is that the people who gave him the job must have known his philosophy - surely he didn't lie in his interview. He won't be the only person to blame if he is sacked.
     
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    If and when Johnson goes then for the good of the club others must follow him. Sadly whilever the club is in sole ownership of one individual* that isn't going to happen.

    *Meanibg one individual as opposed to several rather than one specific person.
     
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    SirPsychoSexy Banned Idiot

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    Exactly. They knew what his style of play was when they headhunted him so they can have no complaints about what is being served up
     
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    I won't feel sorry for him.

    If he loses his job, it's his fault. I don't want him to be sacked, but it's going to happen if things don't change soon.

    For failing at a middling third-tier football club, he might well walk away with the equivalent of ten years' wages for me.

    Sorry for him? No. Wishing he'd done better? Definitely.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Not up to me to come up with the answers.

    The club ask for my money and they get it. I ask for something in return and I'm still waiting.
     
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    The thing that I don't get is why we even considered him in the first place. One of the youngest managers in the league and he has achieved what exactly? Plus it was only a month or two prior to us beating Oldham, and by all accounts their performance was dog ****. There were much better options out there from what I can remember.
    In fact I had a fiver on someone I thought was nailed on and my wife said she wanted to have a fiver on someone so I asked her to pick and she picked LJ from the list. Needless to say I didn't put the fiver on him in the end! Typical. Says it all really.


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    If Barnsley sack LJ im sacking Barnsley lol.

    Not because I think he's doing as good job but because Im fecking fed up of it. It's getting boring. The next manger will do no better than the last. He will have his hands tied just the same.

    I would rather give LJ time to get it right, becuase the last 10+ managers haven't and sacking them doesn't work
     
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    Oldham WERE dog-**** at Oakwell.

    A really, really bad team content to sit back and lump it at, I think, Jonathan Forte, for the whole evening.

    Not only that, but Johnson had been absolutely pulverised at MK Dons not that long before we recruited him.

    Not a 3, 4, or 5-goal drubbing. They let seven in.
     
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    There's a couple of questions I'd like to ask Lee Johnson -

    Have you been afforded the transfer and wage budget you thought you were going to get when you left Oldham for us?

    If he has, then I'd want to ask him if he understood how little that would stretch. If he understood that too, then I'd have to ask him why on earth he left a secure job where, because of Oldham's small fan base, there is little expectation, for a club that is notoriously quick to sack managers and where expectations are huge, if, as seems to be the case, he could only fill his team with kids and loan players, giving him bugger all chance of any success.

    There's no ******* way I would have done that and I love BFC, so I'm struggling to understand why someone with no connection to us would do it.
     
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    Simple answer is like all footballers and managers they're paid professionals, and whichever way you look at it Barnsley is a better prospect than Oldham, probably paying better money..so like most people you go where the prospects are best and usually to whoever pays the best wages.
    Generally speaking it's only us..the fans, that view football with sentiment.
     
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    I completely agree, but how is a team full of kids and loans a better prospect? That's the bit I don't understand.
     
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    Because if you're young and you talk about turnover rates and high pressing you're automatically thought of as representing the new, opta centric scientific approach to the game. Apparently this is the future, even if it's largely David Brent style ******** management speak and significantly less effective than a football dinosaur like Arry Redknapp or someone telling the team to play 442 and "get stuck into em."
     
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    Because you would expect a Club who are historically speaking a second division Club to have better kids and get better loans than a club who are historically a fourth division club (no offence to Oldham...just off the top that one).

    Not referring to LJ..but there is some truth in the modern world generally about the point Mansfield red has raised.
     
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    Again, I agree with that, which is why I'd want to ask Johnson if he's enjoying the same budget as he expected, because what we've brought in isn't very good and, I'm told repeatedly on here, has cost us hardly any money. I want to know if he thought he would have the funds to bring in better than that. I'm not saying he did or he didn't, but if I had known the kind of players from which I would have to make a team, I wouldn't have come here. I would have waited it out at Oldham, where I was building a decent reputation, until I got a much, much better offer.
     

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