having being a barnsley fan for 50 years watching the reds withing a few games of going out of the league johnny steele bought jonny evans and barry thomas these two player saved us, I have read on this site some rubbish and some very good points. our team (the team we support) is a small town club who we all love and would not change. now to the point. we do not know what has to happen when we sign players 1 year contracts may be the players demands and come January these players may want to move on to bigger and better things (no matter what we the supporters think) I like the rest of the true barnsley fans would like our best players to stay but I also acknowledge that we have to make money to stay in business so we should look at the players that keith has brought in and look at them as money to keep our team out of administration. too many of people who write on this site are too quick to judge players on first few games. I was unfortunate to have a seat near some idiots who kept saying that georgi hristovo would never make a footballer boy were they wrong. adam hamill was erratic when he first turned out for us as stated before on here. j.o.b was slated as was butterfield I believe that the majority on keith's signings will come good this season and the ones that don't will not be in the side anyway. we have some talented youngsters coming and we must be patient with them, some of our so called supporters will get on their back too quickly and this will not help there progress. SUPPORT MEANS SUPPORT not jeering allow the manager to manage and we will support.
Georgio Hristo would never make a footballer, boy where they wrong!! That sentence is the funniest thing ive read today!!
Nonsensical comments IMO. How is signing players on short term deals keeping us out of administration?? We sign players on wages we can afford but we are losing out on fees by having such short contracts as the Vaz Te debacle shows. His attitude is typical of many who started supporting the club in the 60s who think that being better than we were then is some kind of achievement. Shame.
I do think that the era you started watching has some bearing on how you think about our position, I started in the 50's and along with others of that era have seen times much worse than now and probably do think that what we have now is progress from those days. If you think that is shameful then so be it.
I didn't say it's "shameful". I meant it's a shame that people's aspirations are defined by our lowest ebb fifty years ago.
so in according to the blokes statement if anyone thinks a player is rubbish and they say so,this means they arnt a true supporter??...rubbish,,i may not have supported them from the 60's but i've been there since the 70's,and if a player is rubbish i'll say so,i wont praise poor players...if we were crap in the school or pub teams we were told so...professional players get paid to perform... by the same token if they play well i'll say so.. alan clarke had the right idea when he took them down wooley colliery to show them what some of the supporters had to put up with week in week out,and also to show them where they'd end up if they were c rap...and look where clarkies work ethic got us..promoted,after 20 odd years in the doldrums...
I started supporting BFC in the 60's at probably our lowest ebb but what we have to accept that those bad times in the 60's and 70's (in terms of league position) are the exception in our history, we are a second tier team anything less is an 'under achievement' . I don't care really how long players are on contract or where they come from as long as they are up to the task of maintaining our second tier status and occasionally allowing us to dream of the promised land that is the Premiership
..............what a load of RUBBISH !!!!!!!!!! .............you lost me when you said a 'small town club'............if we all think like that then we are going nowhere Just hope the directors dont think like that ..............We are a town of about 230 thousand which is surrounded by other conurbations which greatly increases the catchment area of the football club. For example Flockton, Hemsworth, South Elmsall, Wath, Mexborough, Stocksbridge, High Green etc etc etc have all got Barnsley fans in them. Think small and you will always be small..................Dave Bassett in his book summed up Barnsley when he more or less said exactly the same as this
This "support them come what may" business is all very well if you believe the management team know what they are doing. Sadly, at the present moment, the evidence suggests otherwise. Is the replacement of a £16/£23/£30 category system with a standard £28 for casual fans the way to get more people in? I don't think so. If anyone disagrees, just wait until next season - thee watch! This club needs to re-engage with it's community and re-think it's financial model. I think that we would have built something with Robins - staedily, admitted. But he had some football nous, unlike the chancers we have now.
Add to that the Championship is a great league, lets enjoy being in it. Maintaining our status in this league is the benchmark for our club, we might occasionally surpass ourselves, as we have once, but I like being the Championship. More games than in the PL to start with.
T'owd Man........you've got it spot on mate,my thoughts too orsenkaht..........most of the last post I agree with,except the bit about Robins
I started watching in 1957 aged 8, in the old 2nd division and this is the record for my first 20 years of following BFC. So, like I said the era in which I started watching BFC certainly does have some bearing on how I look at our position now. Don't get me wrong, I am not happy when we struggle, I would like to see us achieve more than we do, that is what a being a fan is all about but at the same time I am realistic about where we are know, where we have been and where we are likely to go. 1959 – Relegated to Division Three 1965 – Relegated to Division Four 1967–68 – Football League Division Four runner-up; promoted to Division Three 1972 – Relegated to Division Four 1978–79 – Missed runner-up spot on goal difference; promoted to Division Three
This whole scenario is a big split difference of opinions, in 1 respect think small and you end up small but realistically until we get some funding in place how can we compete with just about every other club in our league (and some lower league clubs, mk dons, Bournemouth etc etc). If having to groom players into sellable assets to bank roll the runnings of the club then like it or lump it that's the way it is. As for the manager, this season will really tell wether he as some good manegerial skills like he keeps telling us he as. Personally I think he'll be good for us, better than that miserable dull faced personality disordered barsteward that was robins! Onwards and upwards.....