Problems after the Brazil vs England game last night

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  1. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Two world cups in a row where the safety of fans is questionable. I don't know about the rest of Brazil but in Rio this kind of thing is rife. Didn't hear about too much of this happening in South Africa but knowing FIFA they will have put a lot of effort into keeping such stories out of the media.
     
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    This is what happens when you segregate your capital city and leave half your population in abject poverty. It only seems like yesterday, Brazil was killing it's street children. They have never answered for that and to give them international sports tournaments at this point is a mistake with so much corruption and poverty. Unfortunately the only high profile sportsman who stood up to this has passed away.
     
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    This actually happened? Jeez
     
  5. Mr C

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    It was rife well into the 2000s

    INTERNATIONAL CHILD RESOURCE INSTITUTE (ICRI)
    24 April 1995
    THE KILLINGS ESCALATE IN BRAZIL
    Street Children: More and More Killed Everyday
    By Caius Brandao
    ICRI Brazil Project Coordinator

    Brazil has highly progressive children's rights legislation, the world's largest and strongest movement for the rights of street children and was one of the first countries to sign and ratify the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child. Why, then, does the ever-growing number of murdered children and adolescents seem to have no end? Why, indeed, are more and more Brazilian children dying while society already has at hand powerful tools for the protection of their rights?

    The answer, lamentably, is that killing children is a profitable 'pastime' in Brazil. The so called 'cycle of impunity' means not only neglect or omission, but a rather profitable corruption scheme within public security and law-enforcement agencies. Tania de Almeida, head judge of Duque de Caxias Court, delivered a powerful speech at the Street Children Hearing in Copenhagen. The judge explained a vicious circle: the powerful elite in Rio pay private security agencies to provide for its safety; these agencies are headed by police officers or chiefs of the Military Police; rank-and-file police officers, unable to live on their salaries, often moonlight, quite commonly for the security agencies; reassured by the cycle of impunity, the security agencies branch out into 'illegal' business, which as often as not, turns out to be 'cleaning up' the streets for dissatisfied merchants; cleaning up the streets comes to mean eliminating the children of the poor perceived as one of the source of Rio's modern-day problems. Judge de Almeida went on to characterize the staff of these private security agencies as largely comprised of professional killers. Finally, according to de Almeida, there are several Rio 'parlamentares', or city officials, who, once professional killers themselves, currently protect their 'successors'.

    Clearly, there is a perceived benefit to killing destitute children, not only to those who directly profit from it, i.e., the hit-men. When street children die it also 'benefit' the people who paid the professional killers to clean up the streets in the first place. The benefit of children-free streets can get to be very expensive, since the killers need protection at the judicial level as well, and this is where corruption comes into play. Money and political power are the most common means of undermining the law in Brazil. Ultimately, the Children and Adolescent Act (ECA) and the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child become dead-letters. Despite well-voiced national and international outrage, murder, the most violent abuse against children, continues to go unpunished by the government. According to Amnesty International, 90% of the killings of impoverished Brazilian children and adolescents--who are mostly of African descent--have never been resolved because of the infamous cycle of impunity. As a result, the killings escalate.

    On April 4, the Second Juvenile Court of the city of Rio de Janeiro, using 1994 figures which include children and adolescents from the city of Rio and the neighboring Baixada Fluminense, reported a 10% increase in the number of minors killed in Rio de Janeiro over the previous year. In 1994, 1221 minors were killed in the State of Rio de Janeiro, an average of more then three kids everyday; 570 died from gun-shot wounds, and a total of 344 were under the age of 11.

    International Child Resource Institute
    Brazil Project
    1810 Hopkins St
    Berkeley, CA 94707 USA
    Tel (510) 644-1000
    Fax (510) 525-4106
    Email icri@igc.org
     
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    It happens unfortunately. Even in England.
     
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    Hoping to take young un next year for at least first 3 games. may be a bit dodgy, but if i can afford it will probably still go
     
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    and a lot of folk get mugged at earpoint listening to his drive time show.
     
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    Capitalism is as capitalism does.
     
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    Guessing you're talking about mugging not state sponsored extermination of children living rough?
     
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    Good guess.
     
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    Cool can we do another one?
     
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    My turn to guess.
     
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    Let's not start blowing things out of all proportion - remember all the scare stories about Poland/Ukraine and how that turned out?
     
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    I think its on a different scale in Brazil though, there are genuine concerns ,its only a couple of years ago Jenson Button was involved in an attempted carjacking
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11704802
     
  16. Mr C

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    Terrorist bombs in the Ukraine 2 months before kick off, urban culls on stray cats and dogs, random & group violence and in match racist chanting. Went swimmingly that one. :)
     
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    All kicked off after one match too, theres that video on youtube on about 10 people kicking the shi.t out of a steward on the concourse. Think Russia/Poland
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Brazil, Russia, Qatar all countries with dubious human rights and/or crime problems...But with plenty of wealth to grease palms?

    Mind you, let's not forget that people get hacked to death in broad daylight on our own capital's streets.
     

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