PROPER Marketing ideas (not whining about what others are getting cheaper)

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  1. fir

    fired Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Future of the clubs is the young fans, so keep on with the initiative to get kids in. This is what I'd do:-
    1. Keep the free kids offer
    2. Keep the extra kid for £25 offer.
    3. Give incentives to kids to introduce a friend for a season @£25, by offering them £10 off homeshirt... gets even more kids in the ground, and more wearing shirts - yes it's a bit of a giveaway, but the point is fans for life - and not many folks turn their backs on their first club.
    4. Get somewhere for home fans to drink in the ground. Planning on the ground was shocking - a huge void under the East stand (which could easily have been a social club, and the biggest end built at the end where there were more physical restrictions. Not being able to sell beers in the Ponty is costing the club dear & is a **** up. Either give the home fans the North Stand (and build a Social Club), or sort something out in the Ponty.
    5. Give ST holders incentives to introduce fans on a match by match basis. Maybe a Loyalty card, giving discounts at the club shop.
    6. Sort the shop out. Appreciate that the club doesn't want to spend beyond its means but it really is not difficult to provide decent quality clothing at a reasonable price. Have a monthly promotion - i.e Scarves at £2.50 instead of £7; kids t shirts @ £5 etc etc (all to generate profit), but if fans knew it was coming they'd look for this month's promotion.

    ANyone else got any ideas
    ?
     
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    Fi the reason away fans have always been put at that end of the ground is because for 90% of the game you have got the sun in your eyes. Tried it a few times when they used to let us in there cos my son liked the chips, facilities good, view crap.
     
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    fired... you done well there..

    I cannot think of anything.. however I think Barnsley need to be quicker of the ball.. the should have had MR T shirts printed anything for a little quick fix of cash
     
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    all of the above, well said.

    Also, give the catering staff incentives

    We get about half an hour minutes every 2 weeks approx to sell food & drink

    That's less than 1% of all available time we can take money

    1. double / treble the amount of tills
    2. double / treble the amount of staff
    3. train the staff intensively
    4. incentivise the staff on a % of takings (tills can identify what server sells what / how much)
    5. get beer / lager on in Ponty / West Stand, dispensed by latest quick fill 8 pint machines
    6. Automated stock replenishment system so no outages of food / drink items (really easy this, simple spreadsheet will do)
    7. Queing barriers / lanesso everyone is served in proper turn

    most of it is just common sense really, but I think that would <u>double</u> match day catering takings
     
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    Never bought anything from food outlets at Oakwell

    ... so you have a very valid point.

    Other grounds have pints being "stacked up" whilst staff take cash at the tills - not too hard!

    There is no food at Oakwell that I would ever want to buy, especially for £3.

    Having said that, I do have the ability to go for 3 hours without needing a meal.
     
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    1. Give season ticket holders a discount at the club shop. 10% off isn't going to break the bank but if as a season ticket holder I knew i'd already essentially paid for 10% off I'd be far more likely to try to force myself to buy something in there than I am at the moment. Now the clubshop is somewhere that I simply don't visit because I know everything in there is crap. If I knew I got some kind of discount then it would tempt me to go and look for something in there that I want. It's more of a psychological thing I think which is why shops regularly have small sales.

    2. Sort out the online shop to includ EVERY piece of merchandise that the club sells with decent photo's of each one. The software is much improved on the last shop but the new one still isn't being used correctly.

    3. East stand club shop. Spend a bit of cash and give that a small refit. Swap it for the waste of space that is the betting desk next door and really increase the range sold there. At the moment it is a glorified programme stand when it could be much more. The club sold the shirt in there for one match a couple of years ago and I saw dozens of people walk out with one. That day alone would have paid for the refit.

    4. Make regular use of the TVs in the concourses. I've noticed that when there is a sky sports match on there are a LOT of people gathered round the TV's watching the game and having a drink. How much would a big screen or projector near the bar cost? A few hundred quid and if fans knew that EVERY saturday there was going to be a match showing on the TV's (and it was advertised) then more people would come down early and spend at the bar. At the moment people won't go early specifically to watch it because the TV's are only turned on once every 4 games and even then it's hit and miss whether sky sports is going to be on or if it's just adverts from 'tykestv'.

    5. Advertise the facilities and packages a bit more. The academy pitches can be rented out I believe but how much that costs i've no idea. Utilise the website to include these details of when and how much they can be rented for. Same goes for sponsorship packages. We were in the situation a few weeeks ago where the club was looking for a programme sponsor a few days before the game, if the website included details of how much sponsorship is and which games are available then they might have a better chance of selling them. Likewise if the companies that do buy them had their logo on a set page on the site like with kit sponsors in the programme then they might be more likely to buy a package as it gives them an advertisement for a year.
    Advertising boards are similar. If there was a page on the website with a plan of the stadiums advertising boards showing which ones were available and how much for then companies might decide to buy them. Same with the poster boards in the concourses, i've noticed theyre all empty at the moment but I've not seen this fact advertised anywhere or have any idea how much they cost. A page on the site would take literally minutes to set up and a photo of the boards location could encourage people to advertise. Who knows, even this site could buy one if they were cheap enough.
     
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    Sun?

    What sun?!!

    Take your point.

    But why do we build a massive stand at that end, when the Ponty is so small the gangway size prohibits you from buying a pint?! Planning disaster. East Stand - biggest waste of space ever. Get a Social Club in there! What do I know??!
     
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    The ponty end isn't too small to sell alcohol

    That was just the worst excuse ever invented. Huddersfield has practically no space behind their stand yet they have a bar and I believe a former chairman (no idea which one) said himself that there was enough space.
     
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    But the thing is the catering is NOWT to do with BFC. It is a catering company that does it all
     
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    that's all right then

    in fact we might as well just close all the snack bars off if's nowt to with BFC.
     
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    The club does have some influence though

    The club could put a barrier up around the refreshment stands like they have for the bar which works well and i'm sure the equipment belongs to the club as we've had different companies using the area and all have used the same equipment.

    They really should get rid of the now yellow and white coca cola sign above the food outlet. It's been there that long that it looks dirty and doesnt encourage you to buy from it
     
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    RE: The ponty end isn't too small to sell alcohol

    Reason is cos of the open corner bit outside. People will want to go outside and guranteed to sneak a pint out while the footy is on. No alcohol to be drunk while a game is on</p>

    Look how hard it is to &quot;police&quot; the area with the smokers. Smokers should not be allowed there has smoking is not allowed in any part of the ground, but to not cause a riot every game they turn a blind eye
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    That is also not true

    Well I see your point but the huddersfield example again is the same. It's outside and fans can actually see the pitch from the bar itself. The key there is that it's correctly managed. Huddersfield don't allow you to stand in a position that you can see the pitch while drinking.

    Also you are allowed to see the pitch before kick off aren't you while drinking? That's why you can sit in the exec boxes looking at the pitch until kick off then have to move away if you drink.
    As for the smoking area, it's not a case of being unable to stop it. Its a case of encouraging it. The club encouraged people to go there against football league rules (this was admitted i believe)
     
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    Latest digital projectors and big screens

    &pound;500-&pound;600 installed

    Can we get Jeff Stelling on at half time near food bars, would be like flies round <strike>sh</strike> jam. Those 2nd handold fashioned TV's perched on the top of the bogs showing Oakwell TV ain't really doing it.</p>

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    Agreed. However even those **** TV's get people crowded round them which just goes to show how many people would hang around a big projector or LCD. Like you say near the food outlets they'd be a real money earner. Even if we dont get a share of the revenue from the food we would be able to demand higher fees in the future from anyone bidding for the contract.
     
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    Yep

    So if we had a huge LCD screen in a proper bar, selling proper ale, pre match we'd clean up. The club has so much space..... even Donny did it with a pre fab at their old ground... I just can't see why we find it so hard.
     
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    RE: The ponty end isn't too small to sell alcohol

    Easy answer. Block it off. Get folks to come in thru other turnstiles .... block the view, whatever.... All I'm saying is that BFC has access to possibly more land for development than any otheclub, and yet it still can't plan the most basic things - how hard can it be that Huddersfield, Walsall, Donny, etc etc can manage it, and BFC with umpteen acres of car park space behind the home end, cant provide enough space for a few turnstiles and a bar??
     
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    We used to have just that thing ourselves, but

    cocked up when we built the Ponty End stand.
    I have heard allsorts of rubbish about why we have not got a new social club.
     
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    Stop it!!

    You're only one step away from

    "They don't want to go up."



    :D
     
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    No I am one step away from

    " ILEY OUT"
     

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