Quality interview with Hill on BBC website

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  1. Gor

    Gordon Ottershaw Well-Known Member

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    I agree with him 100%. The parachute payments are a joke and are simply aimed at getting any big teams, like West Ham and Newcastle, who get relegated straight back into the Premiership. The FA should be concentrating on what the teams are doing to get themselves into the financial mess in the first place. Southampton, for example, could easily come down this season, and yet they are splashing £12m on a player, with £40k per week wages and lord knows what add-ons, signing on fees, etc. The FA should be forcing these clubs to spend within their means and plan for a potential relegation with tiered contracts and so forth.

    He's also right about the way the team and the fans are pulling together. It's probably more noticeable down at Oakwell now we're down to the hardcore support, but the support so far this season has been excellent. I've said a few times that this team we have at present have restored something in me that I haven't had for over a decade, as I can now identify with the players. We've gone through a decade of players just coming to pick up a salary (with one or two exceptions), but I really get the feeling that this team (or most of them anyway!) are prepared to fight for the cause.

    We're really on to a good thing at the moment and we're not breaking the bank to do it. It is very reminiscent of what happened in the mid-90s. If only the floating fans can start coming back and get behind the team with us. But there lies the question - how do we do that. It's clearly not as easy as lowering the ticket prices, although that would be a start.
     
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    imho its the likes of John Stones and other youngsters that have a 'connection' with the club. The fans were cheering Stones every moves on Saturday and that can only encourage the players even more. It is amazing what peoples belief and encouragement can do for someone. I've experienced it first hand and that was only with a handful of people so it must be immense to have your full town of fans getting behind you.

    This is then having a knock-on effect with the whole team and its pulling everyone together.

    The club have stated they wont pay silly salaries and the last of the big earners have almost all gone or on cheaper contracts. I think only maybe Steele and Hassel will be on the more expensive contracts now.

    We have players here on peanuts who are playing to play football rather than just pick up a fat cheque and its showing.
     
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    Fantastic interview, he's an entertaining man to listen to Keith but also makes some excellent points with regards why nothing is being done to curb parachute payments. With the exception of ourselves and a couple of other clubs in the Championship, the PL is the aim and they know that should they get there and come back down again, parachute money helps them to grow into a Championship force with a great chance of getting back to the promised land. Justblook at Blackpool, Reading, Hull, Burnley etc. Smaller clubs who are considered big fishes in the Champ now due to a nudge along by the PL and parachute money.
    As Keith righly says, clubs wont contest it because they take the view that thats what theyre after
     
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    It's the same rules for everybody.

    Keith talks a lot of sense, but he also continues to burn energy, repeatedly bemoaning things he can't influence. If he carries on, he'll fast become the next Billy Davies. I want to hear more about how he plans to move the team forward, and less about how unfair everything is.

    Re. Stones. Very exciting prospect. The 4-year contract means we shouldn't get shafted...unless of course, The Don gets hard with the first £1m offer he receives.

    Terrible timing again with the Blackpool game. What we needed was a home game straight after, to create some momentum among the extra 4000 who turned up.

    Instead, we lost away at Blackburn and will probably lose at Birmingham...on TV...again. By the time the next home game comes round against Ipswich, the Blackpool game and the extra 4k fans will probably be a distant memory. Back to square 1 with an 8-9k gate.
     
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    Their 125th Anniversary was on 17th Sept, Blackpool was the closest game.
     
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    I think he's trying to educate fowk. He talks consistently about moving us forward, endeavour, coaching, developing etc.
     
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    It's back to 8-9k gate for Ipswich because it's back to £28 to get in ....... not because they have lost to Blackburn & Birmingham !! (Although to some folk that won't have helped).

    £20 pay on gate, no advanced purchase crap & no joining membership scheme rubbish.

    Make it simple & a fair price and people will come.

    Charge £28 and no matter how well they play ..... they wont !
     
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    Only listened to 4 mins of the interview, l'll listen to the rest at home. Love a good Keef interview.

    Madmark will blow up.
     
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    I agree £28 is too much. Having a single pricing structure kinda misses the point, if that single price is that same as the highest price last year.

    But this argument wears thin with me, after a while. The cheapest adult season ticket is £335. That works out at less than £15 a game. There are around 47 weeks to go, to the start of next season. That's £7 a week, between now and then.

    So in response to 'i'm not paying £28 a game', my very simple response is 'you don't have to'. Start saving now, and you can pay nearly half that next season...and the season after that, and the season after that..

    If you can't afford to put away £7 a week, then unfortunately I suspect you can't afford £20 a game either.
     
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    I said at the start of the season it should be 2 catergories, £20 for Cat B then £25 for Cat A. Wendy, Leeds, Huddersfield and maybe 2 more.
     
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    The only Clubs who can justify category pricing, are those who can guarantee capacity crowds. Barnsley are most definitely not in that camp! All it does it create confusion, resentment and it costs more to administer. I agree with a flat rate - it's just agreeing what that rate is.
     
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    Why is it wearing thin with you ??? Your basically saying that either people buy season tickets or they are not worth thinking about !!

    Everyone's situation is different, some people have work, family, financial committments that mean they can't or wont commit to a season ticket year in year out ....... why the hell is that so difficult for some people to understand ??? It's nothing to do with saving x,y or z every week to enable them to cough up come April !!

    We need to target fans who want to attend as regular as possible but for whatever reason don't have a season tickets.

    Can people (particualy season ticket holders) not understand/respect this fact ?

    You just can't compare season ticket average prices per game with match day tickets and keep ramming it down non-season ticket holders faces ....... it's totally irrelevant, a non-argument so stop doing it !!!!!
     
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    Calm down dear
     
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    When was the Birmingham game?
     
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    If you dont buy a season ticket, your not a proper fan, FACT

    whatever your circumstances :D lol

    jk
     
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    Quality interview. Speaks a lot of sense. "When I'm in, I'm in!" LOL
     
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    On the other hand, I don't want to criticise parachute payments too much in case Blackburn fancy me as their next manager.
     

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