Question for Whitey and Dyson

What's the continued fascination with Keith Hill and Rochdale?

I just don't get it?

Anyone else with me on this?

 

Yes I don't get it. Horrible arrogant ****hook who has lumbered us with a lot of very average players. Other than Spackman and that other Son of Rochdale Parkin (who was at least a nice bloke) my least favorite Barnsley manager.

 

Yeah me. I can't stand the lovely person. He's the reason we're in the ****. He signed most a them players and we're stuck wi em. I sincerely hope he never manages anywhere above league one ever again.

 

Funny, last season everyone thought he'd built a great squad

 

Can't explain it any better than I did in my blog a few weeks back.

 

I didn't

 

Yeah, Don't limit yourself to his inane ramblings on here...Read his blog also.

 

In the summer, when everyone was riding high on the back of last season, and forgotten that none of the challenges we face have disappeared, when Dawson was being linked with Birmingham, Perkins with Hull, when Digby was going to the World Cup and O'Grady was Cogba and Cranie Bobby Moore, not even then?

 

NO !!! Not then , not ever!!

 

1. He was entertaining. He was f.cking mental, making up words etc. He was the first manager that I can remember that had a personality and I liked him.
2. He took us over at a time when we needed someone to come in and do a lot of groundwork considering the strategy the board put in place. That deserves credit.
3. He tried to do things the right way. Everyone remembers us trying to pass the ball. It might not have worked but at least he was sticking to his principles and trying to play the right way when usually our managers haven't got a style. At all.
4. We were very, very close to having a very different club than we have now. I honestly believe if Butterfield hadn't got injured we'd have flogged him for a couple of million in January and he'd have had some money to spend. He proved that he could spot a player in Vaz Te, Davies, Golbourne etc, however, with very little money to spend there were always going to be risks and failures with his signings - as it proved. He wanted Carayol. He wanted Norwood. Both are proving to be good Championship players.
5. He signed Mido.

I know he f.cked up. I know he was a bit of a lovely person, too. But I liked him and had a lot of time for what he was trying to do for this football club at quite a difficult time.

 

Exactly.

One minute we've got the best midfield in the league, the next they're toilers.

 

You know that passing the ball across the pitch wins absolutely nothing , ever , dont you. That cannot be the right way for football to be played, not in any footballing match I have ever seen as the team that passes the ball sideways the most been given more points that the team that scored more goals.
It is a totally barmy suggestion that it is the right way, it is not and never will be the right way to win a game of football.

 

I think you will find that the ones calling them toilers have never said the were anything other than that.
Different people have said it but not those.

 

You'll see I also said 'it might not have worked'. I'm giving him credit for at least trying to play passing football rather than have no style about us what so ever.

 

You might as well give credit to Spackman, because although it didnt work, buying every midfielder he could get his mitts on, might have worked !

I cannot understand the love he still gets on here and i never will. Horrible man and horrible football.

 

" It might have worked" but it didn't and he was obnoxious. The job I thought over the summer was to get rid of The majority of Hill's signings pretty much promoted above their abilities. Unfortunately this was not achieved. There is a lot of hyperbole on all sides in this. My dislike is I guess personal he came across as an arrogant idiot with little or nothing of any value to say and everything was soneone else's fault.

 

I know you didn't /don'tlike him mate. I know you didn't like the football his team 'played'. I was only responding to Pasta explaining why I do like him. Let's leave it there, eh?

 

I always said they were toilers.

 

It's the way Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Southampton and Man City are playing though. And Bayern Munich. And Barcelona. It certainly can be successful, and when it is, IMO, it is by far the best type of football to watch, and IMHO most likely to bring about sustained success.

 

It's successful with good players. Not with talentless players like Dawson, Perkins, Kennedy et al.