Question Time

Entire panel is completely dull and useless.

 

It's a bit worrying because I've agreed with the woman journalist most and when I did a search online to find out who she worked for she's currently writing for the Daily Mail!

 

Forget it - she's talking ***** now!

"People don't know the difference between salt and sugar"?!?!

 

Really!!?? I'm very surprised you've agreed with her! I want to throw things at her.

Ming is just rambling, I would back an 8 year old to out debate the Tory, Bradshaw is rubbish and Hislop is annoying

 

I think it was mainly on Europe that I agreed with her.

Watching This Week now - got to laugh at Neil Hamilton of UKIP getting twisted because he's saying people should vote for them and not Tory but then it's put to him that only way to get a yes/no vote on Europe is to vote Tory and he wants a yes/no! It's going to be fun watching UKIP implode over the next few years!

 

It's strange how Portillo has completely changed his political views since he started working for the BBC.

 

And the Tories!

UKIP are so incoherent, even in their stance in Europe, that I'd actually quite enjoy listening to them in a run up to a referendum

 

I think its more likely that the tory party will implode on the matter than UKIP

 

In what way are they incoherent in their stance on Europe?.....in general policies I would agree,but the European aspect seems very clear cut.

 

UKIP won't form the next government but they could have a big say in which party does.

 

Because UKIP members, if not necessarily voters, are largely fiscal conservatives and pro-business, themes which are entirely dependent on membership of the European Union. It's why most Tories are ultimately pro Europe but are constantly at odds with the Euro-sceptics in their party.

The right want something they can't have. Pro businesses free market economics without strings.

 

Anyone who wants a referendum should vote Tory. It's the only way it would happen. Ukip don't have one parlimentary seat. Cameron has gambled on the fact that the (qualified) promise of a referendum gets all potential UKIP voters to vote for them so they get a majority. Even though he really doesn't want one.

 

in that they want a Yes/No referendum but the only party that might give them that are the Conservatives and they don' advocate people voting for them.

I think it comes down to what someone else mentioned - they don't really want it as it would put them out of existance!

 

I think you're quite right in much of what you say,the only thing is,there is an assumption by many that all people opposed to the European Union project are Right wing tories,one of the greatest left wing parliamentarians of our time,Tony Benn,is opposed to european union,preferring the sovereignty of our own parliament.

 

Multi millionaire and hereditary peer tony been cam afford to spout all that clap trap but what has he actually ever done to help anyone

 

Plenty. And he gave up his peerage. The clue is in the fact he is not called Lord Benn.

But don't let facts stop you, as per usual...

 

Is it? He used to be a communist tha knows.

 

Absolutely, but it is the right who are driving the agenda in regards to a referendum at the moment. I completely agree that in theory (and is very simple terms) under its current guise it should be the left that are opposed to the EU, given that much of it exists to promote free market neo-liberalism. But I think the left also see a trade off in terms of the EU being a driving force for progressive social change, and are inherently more open to integration with other cultures and people.

My personal view has been echoed by the majority (including Cameron), that the EU desperately needs reform and more democratic accountability but you can only affect change by being part of it. Also in an increasingly globalised world with shifting super-powers it is nonsense to think the British voice will carry any weight in foreign affairs. it is Europe acting together that has real influence.

 

GB, OUT!OUT!OUT!

But not because I'm a Little Englander and cos I like bent bananas. More because the ECB is uncontrolled. And that the EU is a capitalist club...

 

You see I'd probably agree if I thought for one second we had any political party who weren't completely signed up to unfettered capitalism. Given that we haven't we might as well enjoy the wider benefits that EU membership brings