http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...es-off-it-will-be-like-an-atom-bomb-here.html Or just media ****-stirring?
Sounds bad to me Whitey. Costly to the good old British Taxpayer, for all the extra policing. Jack Straw now admitting the EU border access was a "spectacular mistake".....what can we do about it now?
Sounds like a load of crap to me. The article claims that Roma people can get £26,000 in benefits per year. For some reason I find that very very very hard to believe
Saw a news report about the Roma population in Sheffield only last week. Think it was Channel 4 news. It didn't try to paint the picture that everything was hunky-dory, but it wasn't anywhere near as as inflammatory as that. There was certainly no mention of atom bombs. I don't know which report is more accurate, I wasn't even aware there was a large Roma population in Sheffield until last week, so I don't know anything about it, but that Telegraph piece sounds very extreme. And I know that The Telegraph have certainly got an agenda when it comes to immigration. That doesn't mean the report is inaccurate, it doesn't mean Channel 4 haven't got an agenda either, but I'd be wary about taking on that article as the whole truth. I lived inner city for 10 years. Bradford though, not Sheffield. In both white and Pakistani areas. One small step up from slum accommodation. Actually, it probably was slum accommodation. Doesn't sound a lot different to some of that. Gangs of youths patrolled the streets in both areas. We didn't have any stuff, it all got nicked. We started out with tellies and videos and cars and that, but it all went and there was no point replacing it as it would all go again. The little ******* could get where water can't. It's rare you'd go out without being threatened with a beating in either area, but you jut had to stand your ground. I spent many an evening mounting the pavement in my car and trying to run the b'stards down. Sounds lovely doesn't it, but it was ******* cheap. The rent was cheap and the shops charged you next to nowt for food. The riots didn't surprise any of us. Unemployment, particularly amongst the young was through the roof. Many of the councillors in Bradford were from Irish immigrant families. When there is no work, the Irish tend to move on. That's what they thought people would do when all the mills closed down in Bradford. But the Pakistani population have a completely different philosophy to life. They are much more family orientated. Families stick together, many generations live in the same house, they don't move on. So when the textile industry in Bradford collapsed and nothing came in to take its place the City was ******. The main difference between the white slum areas and the Pakistani slum areas was that you rarely even saw the police in the white areas. They were all over in the Pakistani areas. When I was living in the Pakistani areas, I'd walk past a police van with a group of 5 white lads and we wouldn't be bothered. The group of Pakistani lads behind us would be stopped and searched. This happened a lot. When I was with my Indian mate we'd get stopped. When I was just with my white mates, we wouldn't. It wasn't just us that noticed this, the Pakistani lads were all too aware of it too. Unemployment, poverty and getting treated differently depending on what you looked like, it was going to kick off. If that's happening again, The Telegraph could well be right, it'll all kick off again. Although this time it might be much worse as everyone has some beef and if we keep on getting articles that ratchet up the tension like the one from The Telegraph, it'll come sooner rather than later.
I drive through that area (Page Hall) on a fairly regular basis. The noticeable thing about it is the volume of men and boys (Pakistani, Somali etc) just standing around on the street corners. There are a lot of shops around there, run by members of those communities, so I don't know if it's a social thing, but the absence of women is startling. I've never seen any trouble there, and I have taught in the local school, (a one off, it has to be said). Not one problem. My impression is that it's an established community getting on with their own way of life quite happily. I'd imagine that the influx of a new disruptive culture (if that's what it is) would be extremely unsettling. I certainly wouldn't be hanging out anywhere around there. I don't think this kind of media attention will be helping the situation though.
Been issues between gangs of Somalis down abbey dale road for years. This page hall thing appears to be a follow on from th baby for sale story last week. Saying that a lot of **** hole areas of sheffield and Rotherham are very diverse in the people who live there and there's very rarely any serious issues except gangs of kids scrapping with each other on a Friday like most towns and cities in the uk
I think theres a lot of media ****-stirring and very unhelpful rhetoric coming from people I thought would know better, i.e. David Blunkett and Nick Clegg - that's almost setting up a self-fulfilling prophecy, it will draw the thugs in who will then just point to what was said.
Interesting stuff, Jay. As you might be aware, I've spent much of the last two years here in Bradford, but I find I'm unable to pass much comment on the racial divide here as we live in one of the last remaining 'white' areas. And I spend no time whatsoever in the inner city areas, in fact, a visit to McDonald's or Morrison's is about all I do now round here, other than go to work (new job just up the road). When commuting the last 6 months I found the inter racial mingling very pleasant, and have never once seen any Asian vs White conflict. I have however had the misfortune of visiting Holmewood and it's Gypsy population. That estate is like sumat else. Horses roaming the streets. Kids openly taking shits on the pavement. Illegal motorbikes whizzing by. Angry young men on every corner. A shithole if ever there was one. You are bang on regards jobs around here. Few and far between in what is a huge district. More jobs in Tarn from my own experience. I dropped on myself, via a friend of a friend etc. R lass recalls the riots. And tells some great stories. But the Yorkshire Ripper stories I've been told are again, sumat else. Where was it you lived in Bradford, pal? If you don't mind me asking? . I posted the dubious article btw as I had no idea about the subject. I knew there were Sheff dwelling posters on here and so wondered how accurate the piece was.
I lived in a number of different houses and places. Mostly in the BD7 area, so Lidget Green, Shearbridge, Lister Hills area, around the Uni. Plus Buttershaw (**** me!), Manningham and eventually I moved out to the sticks to Idle. A place name that suited me down to the ground.
From my last job I know that factually the benefits information is incorrect and living in Sheffield the rest seems bo11ocks too.