Radio Sheff.......Barnsley fans concerned Cywka int playing regular..........

..................WRONG AGAIN dee dar ducks.............WRONG PLAYER
Try swapping the name Paddy for Cywka and then they might get it right

 

Fans have been questioning both of them being on the bench instead of starting.

 

They both go missing when they start

 

Shea was well out of his depth on Tuesday night, didn't have a scooby doo linking up with ze German

 

Absolute ********.

 

i've seen it with my own eyes, when they play for 60/70/ minutes from starting they get involved and look effective for around 5/10 minutes all in all, but its in 30/40 second bursts, rest of the time they're doing nothing, don't get me wrong what they do gets noticed and is very pleasing on the eye, but i also notice what they don't do, as dose people who get paid to pick the team, its not just Wilson who uses/used TomPole as a sub, the past mangers of BFC also did the same that must tell you something when the people that have seen every minute he's played in a Barnsley shirt all agree, as did the Reading and Derby manager. when they play 10/15 minutes from the bench they look much more effective because their playing against tiring legs and get involved more because we're normally casing the game and attacking to try and get back into it to salvage a point but when we have something to defend they're less the useless to the team

 

They do more in those 5/10 minutes than some of our players have done the whole time they've been at the club.

 

yeah you think that because people don't see what the none eye catching players are doing, for the team, if we going in front the other team as to have a go at us and with them two on the field 9 times out of 10 they will score because when trying to defend a lead with players like that in the team is like doing it with 9 men they're fantastic to have when we're casing the game but any other time they're useless

 

Surely we need to start with attacking players at home and get a lead to protect?

Nearly every team we play start with their best attacking players then put more defensive ones on towards the end. Maybe that's why we are where we are currently.

Last year flitcroft fired the players up and we knew only wins would do whereas this year Wilson has a totally different approach. I still think we can do it but if we lose tomorrow I'm resigned to relegation.

 

Most teams do start with their best team but their best teams have players that have flair and work ethic, our flair players don't have the later, so we can be got at in certain areas and most teams know this from doing their homework on us, and we struggle with the tempo of the game from the off in the key areas of the pitch losing control of the game far too early witch normally puts us a goal behind

 

I'll agree in part, on Cywka. But Paddy? No.

He's started, and been more than a five minute wonder in plenty of games he started in (Boro, Wednesday, Ipswich, Burnley, Donny, Brighton, Leicester). He also completed the whole ninety in half of them, which dispels that myth as well, that he can't do 90 minutes.

I had this argument with Matt Murray on twitter the other night. He feels like you, that Paddy is an impact player at best. He says he's spoken with various managers and players and they don't rate Paddy either. He reckons there must be a reason why he's played so little football in his 12 year career. And all that is relevant, and some good points were made. But my answer would be that perhaps these managers are wrong.

Mark Robins didn't believe Butterfield was anything more than an impact sub. He got that wrong. He also compounded that by picking Goran ******* Lovré instead for so long. Then there was Keith, who used Vaz Te as an impact player 63% of the time. It worked, like. But still, I think he ought to have started more.


Danny's job. His decisions to make. He even alluded to it being 'tough titty' that certain favourites weren't being picked. So I don't expect him to relent just to curry favour with us. We can only hope he knows what he's doing. I have a feeling he does. But I still wish Paddy and Cywka were involved more than the likes of Shea.


You ******* reds.

 

As a counter argument/opinion to that do you not think playing more defensively invites teams onto us and we just aren't good enough to play that way either defensively or offensively. When we get chance to counter we get to half way and turn back letting the opposition get back and set to defend.

I just think if the opposition defence had one eye on our attacking players rather than bombing forward with no worries we would make a far better effort of getting some points on the board. I don't remember anyone slating hignett for not tracking back or Martin bullock for being to lightweight and leaving the full back exposed.

Let's get the ball and go at teams at home and put ourselves on the front foot for once.

 

Which midfielders are the match-winners and game changers at Oakwell? I'll give you a clue McCourt & Cywka.
McCourt has been far better when he's started e.g. Wednesday, Burnley, Brighton, Middlesbrough. If he tires when we're 1-0 up take him off rather than bring him on when we're losing 2-0 and the game's gone.
Could you lay the blame for any goal conceded on either of them? - I very much doubt it.
If McCourt had the defensive qualities you're talking about, he'd be playing for Real Madrid not Barnsley. Every single player at Oakwell has some deficiency in his game but it seems to be that only the flair players are chastised for it.

 

I agree fully. For me we are crying out for these type of players and need wins.

 

everyone sees things different when it comes to football, fans, players, managers, (blokes on Barnsley player) anyone who's every watched the game really, on this message board people voice their opinion, most of the time its based on what they've seen with they're own eyes and i would never say someone is talking absolute ****** if thats their opinion based on what they believe to be happening in front of them having paid good money to watch the match and support the team, how ever i will disagree with them and put my point across on what i believe to be happening on the pitch, and these disagreement / differences in opinion are in my opinion one of the best things about football, its what makes football fans talk to each other and i think its also one of the main reasons people are attracted to the game so much if it wasn't we'd be watching tv now, my one pet hate about football though is people commenting on things they've not seen but what someone as told them on the radio, thats why i perfer this place after home games

 

Agree with pretty much all of that.

 

We all want the same thing, Barnsley Football Club to play well and win games, and we all have different ideas on how the team/management should go about making that happen, and wile is nice to debate about what should be happening, at the end of the day its out of our hands, and no amount of talk on here in the pub or at work places will change anything, and because of this we'll never really know who's opinions are right and who's are wrong, its still good fun voicing your opinion and reading/hearing other peoples though

 

Play g someone like Dawson or O'Brien is by and large like playing with nine men as they have been promoted beyond their ability.. No other team in our division would employ either. How's this picking the non flair players doing for us is it 1 win in 10 now don't you think it's time to have a proper go now while we still can.

And im sure Brek Shea and Tom Kennedy actually metamorphise into the ghost of Albert Stefano when I've got my eyes on my pie.

 

i agree we have some very bad players, but i can also see the reasoning in playing the players we do. and thats what i'm trying to point out, i'd like to see us having a go at teams and attacking all the time, but i can also see why we don't