realistically a point a game from now on will keep us up

paul.d · Jan 15, 2008

53 has never gone down in the 19 seasons since this division went to 24 teams

DiscoTyke · Jan 15, 2008

..and your point is? (no pun intended).

Farnham_Red · Jan 15, 2008

we need to play better than we have over the last 10 games then

where if memory serves correctly we have been averaging 0.8ppg (0.5ppg over the last 6)

DiscoTyke · Jan 16, 2008

RE: we need to play better than we have over the last 10 games then

It's getting the points that's important - and not easy!! - not trying to dumb down the task at hand by averaigng it out at a point per game.

PS - Is it just me or does anyone else hate Leeds

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

I'm not so sure it's dumb.....................

our 19 game sequences this season are

<table style="border-collapse: collapse" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="432" border="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="width: 64px; height: 20px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">27</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">30</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">30</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">27</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">27</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">25</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">25</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">23</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">22</td></tr></tbody></table>

in the 261 lots of 19 game sequences since relegation from the premiership we have failed to reach 19 on only 31 times-7 of those under Spackman in the relegation to League 1 and 9 of them under Ritchie last season

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

and....................

the last 19 games over the last 9 seasons have resulted in

<table style="border-collapse: collapse" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="432" border="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="width: 64px; height: 20px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">24</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">30</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">24</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">20</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">25</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">19</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">24</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">30</td><td style="width: 64px; background-color: transparent; border: #ece9d8" align="right">23</td></tr></tbody></table>

points(most recent first)

we really will have to buck the trends to get less than 19-and in most seasons 16 would do

S.M. · Jan 16, 2008

Looking at what the clubs at the bottom are doing

Preston, Colchester and Scunny have all strengthened, QPR and Norwich wont be down there, I reckon 53 wont be enough paul. this year the gap between the bottom and the top aint as pronounced, anyone can beat anyone on their day.

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

sorry to spoil your theory but................

apart from first and last place things are remarkably similar

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="311" border="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="width: 92px; height: 20px">Birmingham</td><td style="width: 21px" align="right">27</td><td style="width: 26px" align="right">53</td><td style="width: 26px"></td><td style="width: 93px">WBA</td><td style="width: 21px" align="right">27</td><td style="width: 32px" align="right">50</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Derby</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">50</td><td></td><td>Bristol C</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">48</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Preston</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">47</td><td></td><td>Watford</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">47</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Southampton</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">45</td><td></td><td>Stoke</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">44</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">WBA</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">43</td><td></td><td>Charlton</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">43</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Colchester</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">43</td><td></td><td>Palace</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">41</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Stoke</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">43</td><td></td><td>Ipswich</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">40</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Cardiff</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">43</td><td></td><td>Cardiff</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">39</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Wolves</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">42</td><td></td><td>Plymouth</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">38</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Sunderland</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">40</td><td></td><td>Hull</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">38</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Sheff W</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">40</td><td></td><td>Burnley</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">37</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Burnley</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">37</td><td></td><td>Wolves</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">37</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Plymouth</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">36</td><td></td><td>Southampton</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">36</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Ipswich</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">35</td><td></td><td>Sheff U</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">35</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Palace</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">34</td><td></td><td>Barnsley</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">34</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Coventry</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">34</td><td></td><td>Blackpool</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">33</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Norwich</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">34</td><td></td><td>Coventry</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">32</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Leicester</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">32</td><td></td><td>Norwich</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">31</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Luton</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">31</td><td></td><td>Leicester</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">30</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">QPR</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">30</td><td></td><td>QPR</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">30</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Hull</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">27</td><td></td><td>Sheff W</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">28</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Barnsley</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">26</td><td></td><td>Preston</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">27</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Leeds</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">24</td><td></td><td>Scnuthorpe</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">27</td></tr><tr style="height: 20px"><td style="height: 20px">Southend</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">21</td><td></td><td>Colchester</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">26</td></tr></tbody></table>

barnsleyone · Jan 16, 2008

Shows you how Preston have dropped nt

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

and Sheff Wed.............

..here's hoping for lots more flooding leading to postponements, poor playing surfaces and fixture congestion-an extra time penalties win in the Cup would help followed by another draw and replay

Gaz · Jan 16, 2008

...and Colchester.

Where we got a draw away, which lots of people were saying was a great result for us 'cos Colchester are great and all that.

Oh yes. It shows.

Guest · Jan 16, 2008

RE: ...and Colchester.

They were last season pushing for promotion :$

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Keep the faith.

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

just you watch next year.............

Bristol C in the bottom three

BFC Dave · Jan 16, 2008

RE: just you watch next year.............

of the Premier league ?

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

ho ho ho.......................

no the Championship

BFC Dave · Jan 16, 2008

don't know Paul, stranger things have happened...

...there's a rumour that a small club from a town in Yorkshire once did the same... don't know if there's any truth in it mind..

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

RE: don't know Paul, stranger things have happened...

you've been smoking that funny stuff again-there are no smallclubs in Yorkshire

BFC Dave · Jan 16, 2008

There are...

... if you listen to Radio Sheffield

paul.d · Jan 16, 2008

RE: There are...

I won't for the rest of this week-derby game saturation coverage on the cards-plus Leeds v Doncaster

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