Redders book - a disappointment

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  1. Ali

    Alityke Active Member

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    I almost wish I hadnt read it.

    The man comes across as self centred in my opinion and, whilst his love of BFC and his time there is obvious, did that promotion team really do so well because it was built around only him?

    He was Captain Fantastic whilst he was here and I admire him for speaking out about some of the Prem signings. Tinkler was 'ordinary' was just one forthright remark :)
    I dont think the book shows him in his best light.

    Its also a dull read despite being ghosted by a respected sports journalist (I think thats what he is anyway) it has little in the way of good dialogue and prose.

    Dunno what RR#2 will make of it.
     
  2. Dan

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    I thought it was poor.

    He didnt tell us anything we didnt know. No gossip, no nothing.

    I dont want to know he likes mowing his lawn and playing with his kids in the park. I wanted some scandel on stumpy et al.
     
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    Have you tried Maradonnas book? Quality.
     
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    I thought it was an excellent book

    And I don't think it was ever intended to be the kind of book where he talks about how great the barnsley team was or the kind where he'd give out any gossip and scandal, for me it was meant to be a book that shows how and why a player like him set off where he did and worked his way up to the premiership and back down.

    That's why the book centre's around him, because it's about him and is a story that not many footballers could tell. I think it made a refreshing change to read about how he felt at each club and why he left them etc rather than reading the same old books by the likes of keane etc which just talk about this one time when they got woken up in the hotel by their teammate who had pulled some crazy stunt which made everybody laugh. They're all the same books, just with different names. Redders' is different.
     
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    RE: I thought it was an excellent book

    i agree. </p>

    Not many footballers in my opinion would work their way up from the bottom, and then go back down the leagues these days. He's loves everything about football and was never just in it for the money, and you have got to give him credit for that.</p>
     
  6. KyoteTyke

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    Nope - Top Footballers mentality - Qulaity Book nt
     
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    i thought the book was poor too

    /poo
     
  8. Gue

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    Didn't know you could read

    (N)

    Everything booked up for Ippy?
     
  9. Red

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    We thought so too Ali

    Very ordinary.
     
  10. Gue

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    but you all bought it ? (clown)

    don't you feel ripped off enough at Oakwell? (doh)
     
  11. KFC

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    I found it a reasonably good read

    I can't say I learned a great deal from it, but his is an opinion that I value as an 'experienced pro' to use the terminology he does i every paragraph! I can't help but feel that his attitude is one we will see less and less of as mediocre players continue to reign in big salaries (compared to the man on the street), and his dedication to the job comes across time and time again.

    As others have said, he does seem to have left a lot of clubs under a cloud and he does skirt around those exits somewhat, but I guess that came out of pure faith in his own ability. It's also nice to know that Barnsley is the one club that he regards with greatest affection. I was certainly left with the impression that he WILL manage BFC at some point in the future. Whether that's a good idea or not, I'm not convinced.

    I don't read many footballers (auto/semi auto)biographies to be honest so I don't know whether these things are normally full of dramatic tales or not, but I felt it was a decent insight into how clubs are run over the whole spectrum, and well worth a read as a football fan as well as a Barnsley one.
     
  12. Gue

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    well you should stick to janet and john nt
     
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    john hendries book

    was a much more entertaining read
     
  14. Gue

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    OK so its time to pick on Redders is it!!!!! Thought the book was excellent and would recommend it to any football Fan.
     
  15. Ali

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    Bought it elsewhere sweetie

    now get back in the hole wi the rest of the dee dahs
     
  16. Ali

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    hey'picking on Redders'

    Poor bloke 1 comment that his book disappointed - I'm sure he's gutted
     
  17. Gue

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    What about his theory that Academies are a waste of time and money? Do you think that's why he didn't get the job?
     
  18. BRF

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    It's a while since I read it but my impression was...

    ...that Redders was a bit of a fool to himself really - his own worst enemy at many points during his career. He played for any number of clubs that could have taken him to the top flight and a high profile career. The least likely club to break him into the Premier League was us. If he'd have gotten his head down and acted like the 'professional' he always frames himself to be he'd have been a Premiership player years before he actually was. Walking out on Forrest was the first mistake - but look at the others that followed - like Palace for example, Oldham another. You really get the feeling that he laddered himself with a bad reputation of being a difficult player. We'd have never signed him otherwise because we simply couldn't have afforded to. He'd have been playing for Everton or West Ham, Tottenham or another top flight club. If Redder's isn't bright enough to realise that it's a shame - but the regret I would feel in his situation would be huge.</p>

    Theman's a legend for us - but not managerial potential, not at all. </p>
     
  19. Ali

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    Agree wi that

    but to give him his due he does say loud & clear he wouldnt recommend that youngsters starting out take the attitude he did.

    As for management potential I agree, he still seems to have that ability to rub folk up the wrong way. Cant see GS wanting someone with the reputation of being abrasive on board at Oakwell
     
  20. Gue

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    Agreed.

    Just come back off holiday and bought it in a 3 for 2 deal in Waterstones at Manchester airport. Very ordinary - in fact I'm yet to read a good football autobiography/biography (unlike cricket which seems to churn them out)

    Not sure how much is Redders' fault but I would have hoped that the ghost writer might have stopped it from turning into the stereotypical cliche-ridden football autobiography. I'm not sure about the self-awarded "best midfielder in the Premiership" title either.
     

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