Rio Ferdinand and John Terry

Does anyone feel that Terry has been treat unfairly?

Whilst I do not agree with racism, Rio was racist to Ashley Cole but got away with it because he was black.

No matter what anyone says, Terry has been made to retire by the FA.

Everyone can see what's gunna happen. Rio will get called up now.

Without this sounding offensive to anyone, I feel with all this racism going off, it's working out the other way. Everyone but white people seem to be able to say what they like but white people get done.

This is showing in the general public i.e pakistani protests burning a British flag but as soon as that American threatened to burn a qu'ran, he was the worst person in the world.

I may seem a bit of a d**k head because to be honest I'm fuming about the situtation.

Someone put me straight if I'm wrong and i'm not asking for an argument.

 

IIRC it was someone else who called Cole a choc ice on Ferdinands twitter

 

Rio was racist to Ashley Cole? How does that work then, pale face?

 

isn't choc ice racist?

 

No. He used offensive, racist language on the football pitch. The FA has been saying for ages it intends stamping this out. Terry admitted using this language in court, but got away with it because he was apparently "repeating what someone else said." So, he did say it, so the FA do need to act.

 

Possibly yes, if I said it or when John Terry says it. But someone of the same ethnicity no. They are both mixed race, mixed heritage or whatever the excepted term is nowadays. In black urban culture, guys refer to each other as the N word all the time and it's an appreciated banter. Even white kids from that social group will use it, but if you are outside of that group it becomes racist. That's how I see it.

 

Agree, if that's the situation, it is still inappropriate and reprimandable.

 

hmmm

In what way do you think it's racist?

Racism is the hatred or intolerance of another race. Rio Ferdinand and Ashley Cole are of the same race so it's difficult to argue that one is being racist to the other. Unless we believe that Rio hates black people, but I don't think any of us think that is true.

A black man calling another black man a chock ice is certainly a slur and can be very offensive, but it's a social slur not a racial slur. The alleged 'choc ice' is black on the outside and white on the inside, the inference being that they've lost touch with their roots and no longer hold their heritage close to their heart, which is surely a social issue rather than racial.

 

Re: hmmm

Rio Ferdinand never called Ashley Cole a choc ice, he retweeted somebody else calling him one.

 

Re: hmmm

If you retweet something you endorse it. It's the same as saying it yourself.

 

I just can't look beyond the fact that Terry is a massive, massive c*ck I'm afraid, lets ignore the Ferdinand incident. Throughout his career he's been involved in a number of unsavoury incidents/episodes which seem to revolve around greed, his ego and violence. Not a nice man, deserves all he gets, in a negative sense.

 

That still doesn't make it right. If a word is racist then it should be treated the same regardless of the colour of person using it. I find it almost laughable that a specific word considered by a particular race to be the ultimate insult is socially acceptable within certain social circles amongst the very same race.

 

I understand your point. I remember Quentin Tarantino being picked up on it massively at the time Pulp Fiction came out, where the word ****** was used over 50 times in the dialogue. He defended his script by saying it was an accurate portrayal of language used between close associates. That it twists and subverts the word, giving it a different meaning and taking away it's power from those who would use it as a term of abuse. It's arguable whether that is the case in everyday life, you certainly wouldn't think that if you heard it used out loud - but it's an interesting point. I never followed the Big Brother stuff, but remember the furore over the young white lass who, trying to be hip and down with the possie, called her black housemate ******, and was thrown off the show - the black girl was not so much offended, but thought it was totally inappropriate. Wasn't she the cousin of Keiron Richardson?

My best mate in the world is a 77 year old black musician/actor named Ram John Holder, his version on the Terry/Ferdinand incident was pretty much this.... "He called you a black ****, so you call him a white ****! ****s are ****s, don't waste my time - I'm too old for that ****!" Amen.

Peace up and God bless the super Reds!!

 

who cares...they are both a pair of tw.ats anyhow

hth

 

You spot on there mate. I'm far from a racist but it certainly appears 1 rule for the whites and another rule for the non whites. It's utter ****** anyhow, the f.a now feel they have to redeem themselves for something which terry as been found NOT guilty in in a court of law. Shame on you F.A