Running on empty

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  1. BMW

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    but we keep getting results.3wins,3 draws and 1 defeat in April.We're going to need one last almighty push on Sunday and although the players may still be down (like the supporters) I'm sure come the weekend the squad and fans will be up for it.We've come along way this season lets not let it go with a whimper.
     
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    I thought the week off last time would have helped. Maybe the 8 days can help them get some fuel in the tank, especially Winnall whose on empty
     
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    sorry don't get this running on empty thing, carrying a few injuries maybe, lost key players sure, but why would we be running on empty? We've played a few extra games in the JPT, we certainly didn't trouble the FA and League cups much.
    Its hardly an intense life is it? train a few hours a day play once a week occasionally twice.
     
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    I think it is a factor mainly for Winnall and Hourihane...2 key players...both hard grafters..now on 54 and 52 games respectively...it doesn't matter how highly paid they are , the effort put in on regular match days takes it's toll on the human body and eventually players just burn out.
     
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    We have been here before.
    Playing 90 minutes at football at the pace required is strength sapping. Doing it twice a week is even more. Keeping top form can only be held for a few weeks then form goes over top and sub form kicks in. Form can then return for a while until it finally ebbs away. Then rest is required and you then start all over again. Some of the Barnsley players are near to ebbing away. Winnall puts a lot of running in and is near to ebbing away. Hammill is targeted and having hell kicked out of him. Brown hill is over top with form. Hecky. has to psych these lads up for their finale on Saturday. If we get in playoffs then that should be enough incentive to finish season with promotion
     
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    S****horpe are 'running on empty' too! This assumption really gets my goat. Try working 12 and a half hour shifts in a secure psychiatric intensive care unit, getting assaulted, being threatened and being completely on edge and dealing with anxiety provoking situations every minute of every working day. I enjoy it nonetheless and it can be hugely satisfying at times. Yes it's a free market and I could choose an easier option (professional footballer sounds nice, apart from being tired, bless).
     
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    I'm far from an apologist for today's vastly overpaid, obscenely overpaid footballers but...
    the conclusion that's drawn from what you've said is that the players COULD be bothered earlier in the season but in the last month they just can't be arsed as much. I don't agree on that I'm afraid. I prefer to put it down to being injury affected and having a long string of must win games to get us to where we are.
     
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    give over, we have a team of predominantly young lads, we don't even play twice a week very often and when we do we have a squad of players and subs per game. Its all they have to do and most of the week to rest up and trained staff to help them. I f they can't cope with that god help them in the real world working full hours every day week in week out.
     
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    Ive no doubt our players "running on empty" but the rules apply to all the other teams too,except the ones with big squads who can rest players.
    For me this is where good management will come in, getting that "extra" from the lads now. Come on Hecky lad inspire and lead.
     
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    Walsall must have 'filled up' at some stage they look full of it
     
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    You're missing the point...it's not that they as people can't cope...or its too hard...it's just a fact of human physiology run it flat out too regularly and the performance will drop off .
    In our case 2 key players Winnall and Hourihane must be at that point.
     
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    Same for all teams imho............... all psychology from now on in..............who has the bigger balls.
    If you start with all that "oh our players have played more etec etc" it transcends to the lads..........don't let it.
    Totally proud of our lads this year ...final push required..............COYR!!
     
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    Are you he doorman on corner pin.
     
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    Toney not been running on empty just 80% effort. May rue him being selected this month over Fletcher. No one knew why
     
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    It's not the same for all teams...Sam Winnall has played more than any other striker if not in the whole division certainly the top seven , and more than almost any midfielder.
    He's +6 over Millwall most appearances
    +7 over Wigan
    +7 over Bradford
    +2 over Scunny
    +10 over Gills
    +7 over Burton
    Only Romaine Sawyers midfielder at Walsall has played the same number.
     
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    Good research mate
    My message is the same tho!
    If we feel he cant compete for 90 mins then use the squad.
    And yes Winnall is one of my favourite players....Leicester have got by without Vardy and cost being an issue they have been magnificent
     
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    Sorry still don't get it even at the highest you have there, that's only 10 hours spread out over months and that's assuming he played a full game which he didn't.
    I fall in the its the same for the other teams camp.
    I'm not having a go at our players here I just think that people are making up unnecessary reasons for our recent failures which have largely been down to poor finishing and poor decision making at key times.
    Again just watching the Walsall game and they patently aren't' running on empty'
     
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    your analogy doesn't stack up. at all. they're completely different professions. what you do is incredibly tough. that doesn't make it any tougher mentally or physically, than competing for 3 points against other teams in a play off chase. they couldn't do what you're asked to do. you couldn't do what they're asked to do. no similarity whatsoever.
     
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    Ha ha believe me there's little difference between being a mental health nurse/doorman in inpatient settings.
     
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    Lots of people know why.

    Fletcher was much better coming off the bench & him & Winnall don't work as a partnership so Heckingbottom tried something different.

    Both Fletcher & Winnall work much better with Watkins
     

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