Saturdays match called off for spectator safety around the ground.

I talked to some shef u fans Sunday and they tell me that the footpaths on approach to Bramall lane were icy and difficult to walk on especially noting Granville Road where some fans could not keep there Balance on the treacherous footpaths and a few fell down.
Should there Match have been called off?
or Should ours have been given the go ahead ,don't know specific criteria on safety around our ground which caused our game to be canceled.

 

was it?

Oh no, not that again.

It was called off because of glacial activity in the North Stand.

Crevasses were also a worry in the east stand lower.

Look out for eskers, terminal moraines and u shaped valleys on the pitch next time out.

 

RE: was it?

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FFS... get a life</p>

 

lol nt

 

Disgarded bananna skin spotted on Grove street

Thats it till April then

 

Don't worry.

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Better ridicule the councils and highway agencies then

since salt is what they have been using for decades to deal with ice / snow, that and shovels.</p>

Of course the stuff in Oakwell was not the same was as everywhere else wasit. </p>

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Yes.

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Cos that's the same.</p>

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>

 

What is it that made the 'ice' at oakwell on the concrete floor so different and special

that the traditional method of salt/grit would not have cleared the ice but did clear it in the carpark just metres away?

 

They're on about the track round the pitch. It's a fascinating debate.

If not pointless.</p>

The sun got into the stands and concourses and melted everything else....</p>

And BFC could have got away with saying &quot;well we gritted it&quot; if anyone had slipt* and injured themselves. Public safety is a peice of piss.</p>

* this country is f-cked.
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It's no different at all.

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They should have just gone between all the seats with a council gritter. Then nobody would have slipped, don't know what the Claims Direct people were hanging about for, the daft bleeders.</p>

Anyway there wasn't any ice on the stands. Yes there was but they didn't want to clear it. No there wasn't, Spartacus could see between the seats from his bedroom. Yes there was but they didn't want the match to go ahead. Anyway even at only 30% affected that's only two miles to grit with a bucket and shovel, they'd have got it all easy-peasy. And anyway-anyway what's a broken hip between fans? The inspection team were lying, no, incompetent, no lying. Iknow everything cos I can see Oakwell from the top of our shed. They didn't want the match to go ahead because they want a better chance of winning it. The dirty, incompetent, lying basturds.</p>

 

Windy originally said that the floor of the stands and spectator areas were iced over and that was the reason for the safetly concerns. The track around the pitch didn't get mentioned till much later.

If it was the floor of the stands, the concrete floor then i'm interested to know why the usual method of grit or salt would not have worked. If it is the mud and dirt track around the pitch then surely that would freeze at roughly the same rate as the grass next to it, in which case what is the point in the under soil heating if the area immediatly next to the pitch is going to cause the game to be called off anyway?

 

The stupid, incompetent, lying basturds.

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And that track's a stupid liar as well.</p>

 

Well the undersoil heating ensured the So'ton match went ahead, so that's the point of it.</p>

As regards the state of the stands/seating areas/concourses etc - I didn't go and have a look, neither did anyone else on here to the detail that would ensure a fully informed decision could be made. It's a tad more involved than saying 'we've gritted it' and carrying on regardless. </p>

Speaking as someone who knows the detail involved in insurance needed and the duty of care one has to extend to the public coming onto their relatively small retail premises I can only speculate as to the safeguards that need to be in place by an organisation that has thousands of people of varying ages and physical capabilities using its facilities over the time period of a match day. It is not a simple process and they cannot just say 'be aware' because the first time someone slips on an area that hadn't been gritted then all hell would have broken loose.</p>

I was a sfrustrated as anyone last Saturday's match was cancelled but ffs in the grand scheme of things let's get some perspective.
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My last words on the subject

IMHO the game was called off because there was no desire at BFC for it to go ahead. Whether that was manifest in discussions with the "safety" comittee (whomever they were) or in BFC's lack of efforts in preparing the ground or undertakings to improve conditions, lack of manpower (giving the benefit of doubt) before kick off I have no Idea. I'm fairly sure that the postponement benefited the football side of BFC, possibly CPFC given the weather, the police, the ambulance service and possibly any stewards who, understandably, may not have fancied a day out in freezing conditions. The only people that would be unhappy with a dubious postponement would have been the public or more importantly the Football League and as such it would be unlikely that any dissenting voices would be heard from those that made the decision to postpone.

All your claims that the snow was different inside the ground to ouside it (despite you personally not having seen it either) or that Oakwell was any different / worse than many other grounds (Bramall Lane or Hillsbrough esp.) in the UK on saturday where games went ahead or that it waould not have been possible to make safe the perimeter all weather surface or indeed if the condition of it posed any significant safety issue are IMHO frankly ludicrous.

Quite why you, with no direct involvement in the decision making process, are vociferously defending it is a mystery to me.

 

I wish the club put as much consideration to supporter safety in other areas

otherwise they would have done something about the tripping hazard (kerb) at the pedestrian gate in the bottom of the car park (near the flats)

I can't remember the last time they turned the lights on in that area and I see people reguraly lose their footing when its dark. Its made even worse before the match because they don't open the big gate and everyone has to funnel through the small one.

 

Yay! Now shut up and **** off.

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There was ice on top of the stands as well.</p>

 

The carpark is dangerous on night matches yet the safety concerns are not addressed despite the club (or people withing the club at least) being aware of them. Then again you would have thought that they would have taken steps to deal with the water that runs down the wall very close to one of the TV plug sockets in the east stand lower concourse

 

Some games went ahead OK.

 

RE: I wish the club put as much consideration to supporter safety in other areas

Agreed. Turn on the lights, open the big gate and it would make it safer for the public. Even more crowded considering there's a dirty fast food van down there taking up space.