"ScHoOlS bEiNg OpEn aRe DrIvInG uP CoViD cAsEs"

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  1. wak

    wakeyred Well-Known Member

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    wakeyred, Dec 17, 2020
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    AlTeRnAtInG cApItAlS dOn'T mAkE you RiGhT
     
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    I'd say they are - 100% of schools I work in have had positive cases among the children. One of them had ten classes off at one time
     
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    Is it the chicken or the egg? I'm not sure this article really addresses where infections are coming from, as the track & trace system is not vaguely functional.

    Of course infections in schools will match infection levels in an area. It doesn't answer whether infections from schools are driving it, unless I've missed something?
     
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    The real reason why infection rates are rising.

    World-beating my arse....
     
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    The world has been beating my arse for years.

    Obviously I've not enjoyed it.
     
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    All places of work are the same. All the factories and warehouses I work with have lots of people off. So are Schools driving infections or just the same as everywhere else?
     
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    From the article

    Covid cases in schools reflect virus levels in the local community, a study of 100 schools across England suggests.

    The researchers suggest school closures have only a temporary effect on cases.

    And they add driving down infections in wider society is the best way to keep schools open and safe.
     
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    Workplaces and supermarkets / retail are clearly the other areas. They are open. No proof hospitality has driven this at any point.
     
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    Likely story....
     
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    Me too @LiverpoolRed (and I caught it as well)

    Look at when the spike started. It was the second week in September after schools and universities had gone back after summer.
     
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    Suggest looking at Kirklees and Bradford figures been in the equivalent to tier 3 but pubs and restaurants still open since Eid cases still rise lock down shut pubs and restaurants cases fall then into tier 3 still fall just starting to level out that tells me it made a difference
     
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    No, that would be the research in the article I referenced.
     
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    Not really getting your point here? In tier 3 pubs & restaurants are closed.

    Is there evidence you have that suggests they are the cause of the transmission?
     
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    I'd say they are a factor - socially distancing is difficult especially the younger ones. Seems to be rising significantly in secondary schools as well
     
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    What a ridiculous article.

    Of course cases in schools match the community, that doesn't mean they aren't causing the rate to rise in the school and in the community.
     
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    Socially distancing in many work places is difficult too.
     
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    Doesn't mean they aren't either. Agree it's a pointless article.
     
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    You mean apart from the fact that it even says in the article that school closures do temporarily (in account if being temporary closures) slow the spread.

    yUo HaVe MaDe YoUrSeLf LoOk A rIgHt C*u*N*t HaVeNt YoU
     
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