Scoreboard = Americans spending millions on getting a biro to write in space..

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  1. rot

    rothred Active Member

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    Whereas the Russians used a pencil.


    What's up with a couple of big clocks and a bloke who puts numbered cards in slots (cricket stylee) to tell us the score... What else do we need to know?
     
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    Gordon Owen Well-Known Member

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    Who doesn't know the scores these days anyway? Everywhere you look people are on their smartphones relaying scores to each other. A 90 minute coundown is handy for shouting-at ref purposes, but I scoreboard that shows replays is not a huge priority as far as I'm concerned.

    I'd sooner see us raising £120K to make the club more welcoming - a decent bar/ social club, proper TVs in the concourse, some stock in the shop & in the tea bar (no bottles of water left yesterday at half time - heaven forbid they should over-stock & have some left for forthcoming matches in the season).
     
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    Gordon Owen Well-Known Member

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    What about the money from advertising? These days the videoboards are no longer just for "knowing the score". We're getting left behind off the field.
     
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    Yes, that is THE main reason for having one.... but it seems the club isn't willing to "speculate to accumulate". Just makes you wonder how much income it would generate.
     
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    Gordon Owen Well-Known Member

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    More than the advertising boards around the ground. Adds to the whole match day experience, build up, replays, half time entertainment. Watch Man City's light out on YouTube or Brightons build up to games using their screens. If we're playing **** you can put Cora on.
     
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    rothred Active Member

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    Advertising to who?

    I'm buggered if I'm contributing to a scoreboard that spends the whole match shoving sky tv, PPI claims and "have you been in an accident" down my neck.

    All I want from a scoreboard is how long is left and the score (although I'm usually capable of working that one out)

    Save the money for something more important, ****** to what anyone else thinks
     
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    Think this is the point - the cost they've been quoted is £120k. On their current calculations, they're saying it'd take 12 years to pay off before they're making a penny. In 12 years, we'll all be watching 3D scratch and sniff so it'll be antiquated.

    The only suggestion is that we, as a group of fans, look to raise a bit extra cash for the club that WE then have a say in how it's spent. If we want a fund for signing a player or two, that's what it'll be for. If we decide that a video board would be the best thing, fair enough.
     
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    Suggest you write the scorers on the back of your programme and take a stop watch then, mate.

    And the club are saving the money. That's the whole point.
     
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    rothred Active Member

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    Programme! Are u mad?

    What's up with an A4 sheet of paper with the teams printed on it?
     
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    I would actually prefer something along those lines, seriously. Perhaps one that could be electronically activated. It wouldn't do much more than keep time and the score but to be honest I'm sick to death of bloody video screens and advertising bombardment. Don't even get me started on electronic, pitchside advertising. Friend of mine suffers from epilepsy and is mad Hammers fan but he can't go to games anymore because the strobing, flashing signage can trigger an attack. I find it immensely distracting as well, if we ever installed it at Oakwell I doubt I'd go again. As we can't afford to maintain the scoreboard, I don't think that will be an issue for the time being. You never know though, when the change of ownership does happen that might be a primary investment.
     
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    Apparently that is an urban myth. The little bits of graphite that came off a pencil would be potentially hazardous in space so that couldn't use one up there (graphite is a conductor).
     
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    The club's maths don't add up though. There are perfectly good boards available for less than half the cost of the figure quoted by the club (just why does ours need to be three times as expensive as the brilliant board used by the countries richest club?) and even a local division three side charges enough for advertising that just ONE company advertising for 3 minutes per game on their board would pay for the cost of the board within 10 years yet BFC reckon we need 12 companies to put together to pay for it in 10 years. 12 times as much as sheff united then? really?

    I'm of the opinion that the club have done very little research into this and just believed the first figures given to them and havent bothered to follow it up at all after that.
     
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    Also America also used pencils until an independent company offered both them AND russia a pen.
     
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    Well googled, saw the same earlier.
     
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    As an analogy, it wasn't a bad one.
     
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    Can't you remember the score....not difficult when we are only a goal up! The time is another matter - doesn't help anyway when it counts down and stops at zero so you still have to try to work out what injury time has been played. Might have to get a digital watch again, if only for use at the match.
     
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    Is it just me, or can anyone else remember a time when they showed the injury time on the scoreboard at Oakwell? Its only a faint memory as it would have been one of my first seasons, (around 2000?). I just remember the letters (inj) being shown before the minutes, and then the clock continuing to count up.

    Not the point, I know. I can't see why so many people are against this idea! The original figure seems unrealistic, and with other members saying you can get one for half the price, it wouldn't take long for the fans to come up with some ideas for raising money!

    Also, to be honest, if it meant being able to watch highlights from previous seasons and live matches from the dinner time kick off, getting fans in the ground early can only be a good thing! I for one would definitely be able to put up with a bit of advertising. The thing is, its a social event for a lot, and a chance to catch up with your friends or family (whoever you sit with) while there is an advert for PPI, or Claims! People who are saying it would be unbearable are talking nonsense!
     
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    Do we even need a scoreboard? I was a little lost without a clock on saturday but I didn't once have to ask my mate what the score was? Maybe draft one in for when we play Leeds, cos we've had a cricket score the last couple of years over em ;)
     
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    Why would it have to be PPI adverts? one person suggested this and its gone viral. Plenty of local companies could advertise, latest holiday offers from the travel agents, Local Gyms, Ardsley House, Travelodge, Premier Inn, Percy Turner's growlers etc.. Adverts are only usually played before the game, at half time and at the end so l can't see the problem, folk are thinking its going to be like having a tv in the corner constantly on adverts. During the game it can just display the score and time, replays are played and these are usually sponsored. I think it was Burnleys that flashed up with "replay brought to you by .........." it then showed a 20 sec replay, the same for the goal flashes.

    Burnley charge £40 for birthday messages:
    http://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/page/BigScreenMessages/0,,10413,00.html

    Heres the rest of their advertising fees.

    Video Advertising (non sound)
    30 second video ad played pre-match & at half time
    Per game £350 plus VAT / Per season £6,300 plus VAT

    30 second video pre-match
    Per game £250 plus VAT / Per season £4,500 plus VAT

    30 second video at half time
    Per game £260 plus VAT / Per season £4,680 plus VAT

    Still Graphics Advertising
    6 x 10 second still graphics during playing time
    Per game £250 plus VAT / Per season £4,500 plus VAT

    6 x 10 second still graphics during playing time, plus 1 x pre-match
    and 1 x at half time
    Per game £300 plus VAT / Per season £5,400 plus VAT

    10 x 10 second still graphics during playing time
    Per game £330 plus VAT / Per season £5,940 plus VAT


    Can be quite a little earner if used the correct way.
     
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