shafted !!!!!

Once again Barnsley Fc face the prospect of losing its top scorer during the transfer window against the clubs wishes for a price below the players real value. I cannot believe who ever is in charge of the negotiation of players contracts keeps allowing this to happen. Either refuse to have the clause or insist on a more realistic valuation before the clause is triggered and stop leaving the opening of contract negotiations with players nearing the end of their contracts until just before a transfer window. Also why do the club insist on only giving two year contracts to even our most talented and valuble players. The quicker the clowns running sorry ruining our club are chucked out the better it would be.

 

The old argument is that they were refusing to sign without it. Do we not bother or do we accept we're a stepping stone?

When he leaves that will be Butterfield, Vaz Te & Davies sold for almost £2 million. While we should've got more, you can't say Hill didn't develop saleable assets. Let's hope the next gaffer can because if he can't his budget will forever be decreasing.

 

Then once again Rowing proves he shouldn't be anywhere near the position he holds at our club spineless imbecile is too kinder phrase to discribe him and to think he will decide our next manager. I really fear where our club will end up with the current set of morons in charge of it. Ticket pricing players contract management match day experience club merchandise all areas where Rowing as consistantly failed to get it right.

 

According to Preece Hill told Vaz Te to find another club, he came on as sub against Leeds for the injured Butterfield and the rest is history, developement my arse. Is Davies really a better player now than when he first came ?I can't see it. Players develop over years, Butterfield had a few exceptional months under Hill and all of a sudden Hill has made him !!,he was a good player before Hill came . Hill didn't develop saleable assetts he sold them, just that

 

Right, so a manager signs two of the three players mentioned, makes the other captain and integral part of the team for the first time in his career which coincidentally is also when he produces his best and most consistent form and is called up to the England U21s and he has nothing to do with it?

Gi o'r.

 

Wiseman
McNulty
Collins
Edwards
Etuhu
Silva
Done
Dagnall

 

Hill dropped lucky with Butterfield, didn't develop him at all. He was at the stage where he just needed playing. He can take some credit for making him captain I suppose but what effect that really had on his 'development' is a moot point. Vaz Te wasn't developed by hill either, he just needed to realise what he had, maybe keef helped with that.

 

Broken even simply by selling Vaz Te and Davies. Which was the whole point of this 'layering' strategy, results weren't working out but him bringing money in from transfers has.

 

He needed playing but Hill built the side around him, that deserves credit.

I think he did develop Vaz Te and Preece even said so himself with his 'breaking him down and rebuilding him' piece.

 

What would you have him do? Simply not sign Davies, Vaz Te, Hammill and Butterfield? We'd already be in league 1 if that was the case. When players are in the final year of their contract and won't sign another one what can you do other than offer than vast sums of money that we don't have? Similarly, if a player won't sign unless there's a clause of x amount in his contract the only other option is to not sign him at all.

Players don't want to commit to a club who is constantly fighting relegation. They don't want to become league 1 players. We can't offer them high wages and we can't promise them success. We've certainly got our money's worth out of the above so they've been successful signings, signing them on contract with release clauses is better than not signing them at all.

Also, let's lower ticket prices so that we can't afford any of these players on any contract in the first place.

 

And Chesterfield got good value when he signed for us? I didn't hear anyone complain about the free transfer that end. Also, what is Davies' market value? His current attitude is actually devaluing him and anything around the £500k would represent very good business. If I thought he would bag another ten goals this season, I'd say keep him, but lately he doesn't even warrant selection. Bolton have a nice, comfy bench and some naff local tattooists.

 

We'll probably going to be able to bring in a much better striker on loan until the end of the season with the 300k, who might actually try to keep us up. Then when he goes back we'll be no worse off than if Davies had stayed, the difference being we might have been able to avoid relegation.

 

I'm not sure that's a very accurate reflection of David Preece's article. He clearly credits them as being the people that taught Vaz Te the importance of defending, work rate, retaining possession - all the thinks that turned him in to a player West Ham wanted

"After signing a year long contract with us, things didn’t go too well for Vaz. The gaffer and his assistant, David Flitcroft, recognised this and set about rectifying his lack of team ethic on the pitch. They knew they had a job on their hands but they did it the only way they knew how. They broke him. They quite literally ground him down so they could begin rebuilding him from scratch. Every day in training, whenever he didn’t do as they asked they would give him dogs abuse. Some days it was so ferocious even the rest of us thought they were taking it too far but in retrospect it was a calculated gamble. They wanted to drill into him the importance of becoming a team player and thought that their policy of totally stripping him of confidence would either make him or break him. It was military-like. If it didn’t work, as he had been brought in on a fairly modest salary then they could’ve just shrugged their shoulders and admitted defeated. On the other hand, if he responded then all their psychological games with him would have paid dividends.

The watershed moment for Vaz was to be the 15th of October and it came in the shape of his worst performance of the season. In that first forty five minutes in Portsmouth, Vaz’s feet did everything to evade any ball that was passed in his direction. Every attempt he made to control the ball either rolled under his foot or bobbled over it and it became too much for the gaffer who had seen enough and somewhat inevitably produced the old shepherd’s crook and dragged him at half-time. All of us sitting on the bench looked at one another and thought “That’s it. He’s finished now.” and I’m positive that’s what the manager thought too. I think he even intimated to Vaz that week that perhaps he should start looking for another club. That was the week Ricardo Vaz Te’s professional floor had been reached.

He was dropped back to the bench for the next game but after a prolonged pep talk on the sideline from David Flitcroft, he managed to come on late in the game and score in a 2-0 win at home to Burnley. Then it all just clicked"

 

This board is full of idiots, idiots who think they can run a football club from the safety of a bulletin board.

 

Double post

 

The issue is, except for Stones, who is the next saleable asset?

 

And what would his wage demands been now that he'd put himself in the spotlight of every other championship/premierleague club? Much higher than he's actually worth.

If you look at it the other way, if we wait maybe a month and after he's failed to score in a few games and we might be able to sign him for less. Unfortunately the downturn after the Brum game was so quick that it looked like we'd struggle to stay up, and not have a chance of getting into the playoffs like he might have initially thought. He then decides he doesn't want to stay any longer.

 

McNulty.
Perkins.
Dawson.
O'Brien.
Golbourne.