Sheff Utd to go to the High Court now! - Let it go!

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  1. EastStander

    EastStander Active Member

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    Do they seriously, for one minute, think there is the slightest chance that the High Court would rule in their favour? All the High court will do is look at the Premier League rule book and see that West Ham have had a punishment in line with what they can administer.
    Let the Blunts continue whinging another week or so rather than what they should do and use any perceived injustice they feel as the motivation and preparation for an assault on the Championship title.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6270920.stm
     
  2. pompey_red

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    its proper funny , mind if you look at the transfer of tevez to man utd , im sure there will be a few interested people looking to see exactly where the money goes.........
     
  3. pau

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    they just want cash

    United have now accepted they will be playing in the Championship next season, but they are looking for substantial compensation and will go to the High Court later this month to plead their case. </p>

    Bramall Lane chairman Kevin McCabe confirmed the club are going to the High Court on July 13th to launch their appeal. </p>&quot;I believe the commercial courts, as we call them, will look at the ingredients of this case more differently than the independent commission of the arbitration panel,&quot; McCabe told Sky Sports News.

    &quot;Yes I suspect it cannot be with a view to reinstatement I think that is overcome now. </p>

    &quot;It is very much now a case against the Premier League rather than before it was the Premier League and West Ham. </p>

    &quot;So if we are able to get leave to take this to the High Court I suspect we will.&quot; </p>

    McCabe believes United have a good case for substantial compensation as they are set to miss out on the windfall of playing in the Premier League. </p>

    &quot;I think anyone who looks at it and says one club has been wronged -ie Sheffield United -the only recourse open now to make that wrong right is financial,&quot; added McCabe. </p>

    &quot;If you say the play-off game is worth &pound;60million if you recognise Sheffield United's averagecrowd last season was around 31,000 withfull boxes, full restaurants every week, the broadcasting income I suspect you are saying around &pound;50million. </p>

    &quot;We do get a sum of money as parachute payments.&quot; </p>

    McCabe says the club are now planning for life in the Championship and mounting a serious bid challenge for promotion. </p>

    &quot;Common sense overtakes integrity I am afraid, so we are now working as a Championship team with Bryan Robson getting his squad sorted out for a real challenge come next season,&quot; concluded McCabe.</p>
     
  4. Gue

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    RE: they just want cash

    with any luck theyll have a really shitty start to the season due to all this and be playin leeds in season after next
     
  5. Farnham_Red

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    They have a point

    The exact value of playing in the premiership is a bit open to debate but probably of the order of £50 million

    West Ham broke the rules - and not only that the player in question was unquestionably the reason they got enough points to stay in the league.

    The financial advantage gained outweighs the puniishment by about a factor of 10 - Doesnt seem right to me.

    I think the way the Premier League have handled this is appalling - and the Blunts are the ones who are suffering, but it could just as easliy have been Fullham or Wigan
     
  6. Gue

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    RE: They have a point

    yeah but either way ther down now and yes i agree the premier league should of checked the players registrations when they signed not three quarters of the way through the season but fact is this:


    ten points clear


    fecked it up


    only have themselves to blame




    teddys out the cot now



    the blunt tits
     
  7. SuperTyke

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    What would your opinion have been if leeds united had illegally signed a player that had kept them up instead of us? Would you have said it was our own fault? We had a points advantage and we f***ed it up? Or would you have blamed the fact that leeds had an unfair advantage over us and the football league had allowed it to happen?
     
  8. nezbfc

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    having fined west ham 5.5million....

    which probably reflects what they may have paid for him if it were a legit deal...

    I would in all honesty (whilst I hate saying this about a rival), say that Sheff Utd should also be due some compensation in cash terms...


    All this 10 points and fecked it up, yes, I also agree, but in essence, tevez was the one who managed to get the points (or had a massive influence) on the points that west ham achieved, so in that sense, if tevez wasn't included in there side, would they have actually made the points gap up, I don't think they would have, meaning Sheff Utd would have actually stayed up and not "fecked up" so to speak.


    But, I don't actually care one way or another, but I do think they have had the sitty end of the stick on this one especially when everyone are saying if it were dealt with straight away then a points deduction would have "probably" been given....

    one thing is clear, they are not going to get this over turned, and whilst they are messing about trying to fight every corner, this is most likely going to hamper there pre-season preperation, and then I think they will struggle and end up mid table.
     
  9. Gue

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    well seeing as at christmas i thought we were down it wouldn't of surprised me, but what pisses me off is that clubs think they can get through any loophole when they wern't good enough on the pitch. if we got relegated last season it was because WE WERN'T GOOD ENOUGH! shef united got relegated cos they wern't good enough. same with leeds same with everyone else. yes tevez scored the goals but west ham had already been punished.

    its life

    its unfair some times

    build a bridge

    get over it
     
  10. pau

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    I have a bet with my Sheff U supporting brother.............

    that we'll finish above them-I'm pretty confident :D
     
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    So what if leeds had played 12 men in all of their games and taken more points from those games meaning they stopped up and we went down? I suppose that you would say that it wasn't because they had an unfair advantage, simply that we weren't good enough to match them and any complaint by us would be trying to find a loophole.
     
  12. Gue

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    pretty sure

    that refs do try t make sure that eleven players on the pitch for both first and second halves so.................perhaps west ham should of being docked points but like i said thats life
     
  13. SuperTyke

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    But why should it be a case of 'thats life'?
    What you are saying is that the premier league, football league and FA can just pass any judgement that they want on anything that they want to and if you don't like it then tough. It's about time that we, as football fans, stood up and say no we aren't going to let them get away with it instead of letting these corrupt Barstewards ruin football.
     
  14. Gue

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    but that IS life mate. you saying youve never been unfairly treated and couldnt do owt about it? did you whine on for months or did ya just get on with things?

    what im saying is that the descions been made now (rightly or wrongly) and they should get move on


    like the idea of a fans revolution tho......but we just get in charge of it all and start acting just as corrupt as the cnuts in charge now... have you never read orwell? :D
     
  15. Gue

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    That's all pure conjecture. Bobby Zamora may well have scored more goals than Tevez did. Fact is West Ham paid the fine imposed and that's it. The Blunts didn't give a monkey's when they thought they were safe. They also broke the rules by exerting 3rd party influence when they transferred Danny Webber to Watford. He was Watford's player but they demanded he didn't play at Bramhall Lane. Didn't even get a fine. (That loophole has now been closed by the way)What stinks is that the Blunts demanded a 3 point deduction of points (Not 2 but 3) which conveneinetly took West Ham just below them. How come they never said a word at the time? Anyway if you can't average more than a point a game then you deserve to be relegated. More importantly.....why all this sympathy for the dee-dars? Would they give a **** if we were in the same plight?
     
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    "Bobby Zamora may well have scored more goals than Tevez did"

    and what exaclty do you class that as then?

    That's pure conjecture too.


    I also said I didn't really care.
     
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    Its not a case of caring for the blades its the fact that its been dealt with poorly in the same position we would be shouting from the rooftops i dont say this often but i think that Sheff Utd have been **** on, why does everyother team that fields a player that isnt eligable get points deducted except West Ham?
     
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    **** em 6 points on the board already nt
     
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    My point on this sorry silly saga

    If all the clubs who were in the lower part of the division had got together and asked for arbitration at the time of the original decision, i believe that because there would have been 5 or 6 teams ganging together then the orginal decision would have been overturned.... But instead they all waited thinking that it would not be them that would go down. Sheff Utd have only complained now because they went down.. Do you honestly believe that they would be up in arms for the other club if say Wigan went down or Man City..... I think not..

    Personally i think the decision was probably wrong not to deduct points from West Ham, but you cant wait 6 weeks after the original decision and until after the season has ended and them throw your teddy out of the cot.
     
  20. Arn

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    But if it had happened to us

    would we have expected the club to take it as far as possible, remember there's 60 million quid or so at stake
     

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