Just because Mr Shepherd states that Davey was the best man for the job does not necessarily mean that it was Shepherd that chose him. However, I doubt that if pressed he would tell you who is favourite was or he would say little. My reading of the situation for what it is worth is: Cryne's Academy buddy or buddies influence Cryne to give it to Davey, Cryne being the main benefactor influences Shepherd. Shepherd (front man) after being "influenced" does the deal and takes the flak. If you would really like to know who I beleive Shepherd preferred, then read my text carefully for the answer is there.
Yes I do believe that. Doubt if he would admit to it, personal opinion versus corporate view an all that.
I can believe that. If I was putting up the money to keep this Club going then I would be having a significant input into who will Manage. It was obvious from Patrick's interview in the Chronicle, re over reliance on 8 v 8 ect, that he had been getting feedback from the coaching staff and/or players. Either that or he has a knowledge of good coaching practice. We have to assume it was the Academy staff as the 1st team didn't have a Coach and the players were all ARs best mates. (doh)
RE: Why do you turn evrything anti Ritchie, Coachman?? nt I stick to what I know to be facts. Spartacus was correct in what he said. </p> There have been many claims that AR wanted to do this, that and the other, which have never been substantiated. </p> At the meeting he had with Shepard/board AR must have said he didn't want to sign players and was happy with the squad. Now that we have spent a few bob on players irrespective of how good or bad you think they are we have to assume that AR was given the same opportunity to sign players. He was happy not to. ARs silence on his sacking is hardly that of a manager who was starved of funds.</p> As for ARs ambition remember that he is on record as saying last season that Barnsley are a League 1 Club and we should be happy with that, which at the time caused a bit of a stir on here. </p> </p>
RE: He has knowledge of good coaching practice ??? now that is a laff Put thi glasses on and read what I said!</p> (pint) </p>
RE: Why do you turn evrything anti Ritchie, Coachman?? nt Ritchie stated that he didnt want to sign players that were no better than we already had. This is a fact from the press, not something that MAY have been said in a closed meeting. If you are going to continue your attacks on the man at least use FACTS not FICTION. I have never heard or read from Ritchie that he didnt want want new players, he wanted better players. We have the word of a Chairman that says 1 thing and then does another(I think that may be called lying), that Ritchie wouldnt sign any of the players he had been offered. That is not the same as not wanting better players.
RE: Why do you turn evrything anti Ritchie, Coachman?? nt That why AR signed Tommy Wright , better than what we have got.
RE: Why do you turn evrything anti Ritchie, Coachman?? nt Tommy Wright is better than Leon Knight. then there is Dwayne Mattis of course, I know he will turn out to be a world class midfielder. (dunno) (dunno) (dunno)
Johnny - tha reight !!! Ritchie said he wanted to give the players a chance that came up from the Ist division Well didn't he!!! ??? After that, anybody who knows owt abart football straight away knew that disaster was on the horizon The 1st division team was very lucky to get out of that division - what the hell Ritchie was thinking about to believe that that team could do owt int championship, God only knows Richie was a failure that got lucky in the 1st division but came unstuck in the championship, and we are paying the price now We don't know how good or bad Davey is yet because all he has been doing since he took over is trying to patch up a ship that was already sinking (titanic) (titanic) (titanic) I believe if we had this team and this manager at the begining of the season we would be mid-table now
RE: Johnny - tha reight !!! a team that finished 5th last season and got promoted on penalties obvioulsy needed to be stregthened....AR wouldnt do it for fear of upsetting the drinking boys.....Howard Reid Richards etc.... However remember the chairman saying Ritchie could pick his own contract 2 or 3 years when the pigs came sniffing...only to sack him weeks later.... I think the ultimate blame for this seasons debacle lays firmly at the door of the board....Championship on the cheap only led us to one thing.... Goodbye Championship hello Alehouse League....
Agree - Championship on the cheap Even when we started to bring players in, they wern't proven Championship players So what do you get from this??? Some are a sucess but others fail The two hungarians are a prime example Thats all Davey has been doing this season - throwing players into positions and hoping it will work, because the ship was sinking and it was sinking fast From the start of the season we needed two proven centre halves and two strikers OK, we later found out that the left back wasn't up to the championship either If we had kept McIndoe and then got McCann and another couple of loan signings to strengthen the squad we would have been in the top 10 The basics of a good team was there it just needed adding to - unfortunatly we had Ritchie at the helm (titanic) (titanic) (titanic)
RE: Agree - Championship on the cheap So even though you admit that the Shepherd / Davey partnership has also failed to bring in quality players - i.e. doing exactly what you blame Ritchie for doing you still think Davey would've done a better job?! Despite Ritchie being, at least partially, exonerated from the point of view of not wanting to bring players in who are no better that the ones we already have you still target him with your usual vitriol while at the same time blaming the board?! By your own admission we have still failed to sufficiently strengthen the squad and yet you still lay the blame at Ritchie's door even though he was sacked four months ago?! I once accused you of conveniently taking up positions in which it is difficult to be proved wrong and, consequently, making yourself out to be some sort of prophet. I take my cap off to you mate - you've outdone yourself and, in your past two posts, taken up two CONTRADICTORY positions the real truth of which will never be known. I suppose you're never gonna be wrong, eh?
You are talking garbage Davey has had as long in this league as Ritchie had,this is his team it is his decisions that are costing us games, not Ritchie, We have not signed any centre halves, only loans, only 1 Hungarian , again 1 on loan, Davey has signed too many totally inept midfielders, some permanent some on loan. Tell me why there was a need for more midfielders??? This Club is in a worse situation now than when Ritchie was sacked, yet you still blame him. WHY?????
RE: You are talking garbage </p> Worse in what way?</p> Inadequate squad, disillusioned supporters, no likelyhood of change, in the bottom 3 - I'd say that's about the same.</p> And spare me the heart-on-sleeve-run-though-walls-for-Ritchie B*ll*cks - I saw it with my own eyes. We were 23rd in the table for a reason when Ritchie left - the reason being we were playing like cnuts.</p>
RE: You are talking garbage bad performances under Ritchie... Coventry at home, Palace away. Did you go to hillsbro ? they did run through walls for Ritchie. The results weren't there but I feel that the subsequent shambles that has occured since Ritchie was sacked bears out hisidea that he would only get better players. WE have increased the size of the squad not improved it. If they had replaced Ritchie with an experienced Championship manager then fair enough but apointing Davey shows the lack of ambition that they accused AR of.
Revvie P the number of bad performances were minimal, 4 at most. The only disallusioned supporters were the ones with unrealistic ideas. The only aim this season was to stay in this division. I believe we would have had a better chance playing the attacking football under Ritchie, than the totally negative ***** we have to put up ith now.we dont even have 2 players in the last 1/3 of the pitch. Packing the midfield is not working , we are now conceding more goals than before, yet we never look like scoring. Ferenzci was like a breath of fresh air we he came, look at him now, on his own no-one to pick up any flicks, he is looking more dispirited every match. As for playing like cnuts as you so elequently put it, I would rather watch those matches than this DROSS. At least we thought that we had a chance to score, noow we have no fecking chance. I have been watching the Reds for 40 years this year and I have seen the ups and a lot more downs ,but never before have I seen the fans and the players look so disillusioned, the fighting spirit has been knocked out of them. I suppose that is Andy Ritchies fault too. If the board had matched Ritchies ambitions when he wanted to sign players, they have all been published on the official site, then maybe we would not have had to rely onthe same players that struggled last year. Some people on here are a bit quick to forget that he wanted to sign players, they only cling on to what Cryne and Shepherd stated,. We will never know just what was said between Ritchie and the Board, yes I will say that at times he was his own worst enemy, but the way he was treated leaves a nasty taste in mine and a good many others mouths. end of rant
