Should there be a general election as soon as possible?

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Absolutely. What better way to show this lying cheating shower of scum that they're finished. Cheating feckers the lot of em

 

Yes, change is needed. Although the new govt would probably make a hash of it too.

 

My question is....Scotland have their own Parliament...cant we therefore ship Brown back??

 

And the Tories are squeaky clean.. not

Voting for 1 issue is not the way. A general election should be fought on,and voted on, a wider area of issues not just a knee jerk reaction on 1 issue. I agree this current Expenses issue is scandalous, but fvoting on this issue alone is in my opinion small mindedness.

 

RE: And the Tories are squeaky clean.. not

Not necessarily. Forcing a general election would focus the minds of the respective parties and those who's MP's were the worst offenders could and should sack them in favour of a new MP candidate at the election. Not small-mindedness at all, just saying enough is enough.

 

I can't see what a change of Government/Individual MP would achieve

You can't just take 659 people off the street with no political affiliation and put them in Parliament.

Any prospective MPs would have been operating in the party system for the last x number of years and would have the same mentality as the incumbent

 

RE: I can't see what a change of Government/Individual MP would achieve

I dont agree. For starters they'd be operating under new rules so the opportunity to steal wouldnt be there. If they can't be honest and reasonable through expenses how the hell can they run the country. The whole political system is rotten to the core and must be changed. The second biggest problem is public apathy as is being demonstrated on here.

 

I don't remember it ever being so dire.

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Whether he sticks it out or not there's little to go at come election day. I think, whichever of the big two shades it, it's going to be ****. That's my in-depth political forecast.</p>

Oh! Unless a political Mike Tyson comes along in the next 12 months. Someone new to the fray but extremely capable who you can't ignorewho muscles his way into the running at the last minute. What the **** am I on about now?</p>

 

RE: I can't see what a change of Government/Individual MP would achieve

People same to think that a General Election would be waving a magic wand. This mentality is inherent in westminster.

Who will the new MPs be?
How exactly will the new system be run? How rigid will it be?
Who will decide what can be claimed for and what can't?
Who will decide how much can be claimed per MP?
Who will enforce it?

 

All MP's should have to go through the selection process by their constituencies first, all expenses details studied by the constituency party and published in local newspaper.
Once that is complete then call an election.

Otherwise ones that have milked the system could just end up standing again, so if your MP has submitted bogus claims but you want to vote for that party's policies at the election then you are torn between the 2.

 

If there isn't an election very soon, and there obviously isn't going to be one, the expenses thing will have blown over and people will vote for the same cretins, whether Tory, Labour, Lib Dem or anyone else creaming the system. These people deserve to be judged while they're neck deep in ****.

 

If the claims are bogus then surely that constitutes fraud

... which is a criminal offence.</p>

If the claims are within the rules then they have not commited any offence.</p>

The reason that this has hit the headlines is that the 'man in the street' can relate to the sums involved and the nature of the expenditure. The total claims is likely to be less than &pound;1m but more column inches, television time and public fury has come from this than the whole of the multi billion pound banking scandal as on the whole the average man on the street doesn't understand the complexities of the banking system.</p>

The claims fiasco raises a more fundamental concern to me over some of the people charged with running the country. I feel that ifan MP was to pay for something and it was within the rules to claim for an extravagance then they should at least think 'yes I can do this but how will it look to the public' bearing in mind they are in the public eye</p>

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You're suffering from jealous delusion, surely that constitutes Freud.

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Either way the BNP will get a minimum of 5 seats, along with the first Green, UKIP and a few independants.

I don't think either Labour or Conservatives will get a majority on the back of all this as I think the Tories have come out of it worse than Labour. Lib Dem's will be the deal makers like Blair expected them to be in 1997.

We're f.cked.

 

By heck Don, you've been in the knife drawer today ! nt

 

I've just remembered what jealous delusion is.

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Summat to do with you thinking your missus is playing away or summat. I just needed to get the lame Freud bit in. My blood sugar's down, think I'll have a few bottles of sweet cider.</p>