Simon Davey.......................MASSIVE GAMBLE

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  1. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    I have said this in the past on here - Simon Davey COULD be the right man for the job
    If you don't beleive me look back at my recent posts

    BUT BUT BUT

    No one knows this
    We don't this, the directors don't know this !!!
    We are not in a position, a comfortable position to start or even think about experimenting with unknown quatities
    We are 4th from bottom and looking relegation in the face
    We needed a proven manager to be able to turn things round

    What we have got is.....
    A 35 year old with no managerial experience
    A bloke that has not improved the team while in charge
    A bloke who is only used to training 15 year olds
    A bloke who is unknown by football people who are influencial in buying/selling players
    A bloke who has been appointed from the boot room of a 1st division club

    We have gone for the cheap option
    All this talk of a short list for the managers job has shown to be lies (assistant manager to Davey employed a few days after Ritchie left)

    SHEPHARD - HAS TO GO NOW !!!!!!
     
  2. Gue

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    Ritchie was on £80k. New assistant manager on what - maybe £30k? 40k?

    Sheps has just saved BFC £40k a year. Pretty good going I reckon.
     
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    Yeah but how much do we lose if we go down? Nudger's right it's a gamble but i suppose it wont cost too much to pay his contract up if we have to get someone more experienced in.
     
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    The appointment of any manager is a gamble no matter how experienced they are! Appointing an experienced manager is no guarantee of success. Davey has as much chance of keeping us up as any of the others who have been mentioned! Its a lottery whoever is appointed - lets see what happens before we start bemoaning the appointment!
     
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    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    Yes and No

    There is a Gamble..............then there is a Gamble
    And this is one hell of a Gamble
    Yer right, no one knows how a manager will cope
    But to throw an unknown into the deep end when the club is in such a precarious situation is either very stupid or very reckless, or worse - both

    :( :( :(
     
  6. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    On the other hand.......................what if there is no Gamble at all !!!!

    Just had this chilling thought
    What if the board are getting ready for life in the 1st Division
    They can see there is no money to maintain their status in the Championship and are cutting the budget to suit circumstances in the 1st Division
    That would make the Davey employment easier to understand ...........Hell No !!!
     
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    Why do you harp on about Shepherd? He will not have

    made this appointment alone, it's as much PC's appointment, if not more so IMHO.
     
  8. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    My veiw of the board room is this

    And I've heard this first hand
    Shep runs the day to day running of the club with the help of the other directors
    Shep consults PC (who int a director) on major decisions e.g. appointment of manager
    But these decisions are primarily Sheps

    I could be wrong but this is what I have been told by people at the club
     
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    Owen Blackadder New Member

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    So, Ritchie's sacking and Davey's appointment are sanctioned

    by Cryne. Cryne once said if he started meddling in football decisions then it would lead to chaos, Ithink we're about there.
     
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    RE: Yes and No

    I cant see how it is a bigger gamble! Perhaps somebody with more time than me could do some research on success and failiure of managerial appointments and compare the respective success rates of rookie and experienced managers! Very few experienced managers are consistently successful. All the experienced managers who were available have obviously not experienced recent success or they would not be available! The one(s) in post would be from lower divisions or again have no experience at Managerial level - so which is the biggest gamble? All we can do is support Davey and give him some time. Lets remember that after 18 months those that supported Ritchie were still asking for more time so to condemn this appointment after so little time is a bit premature. Yes the team selection yesterday may be baffling but who is to say that a new manager comming in may not have made the same mistake!
     
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    Given that weve little or no money to spend, havent added enough quality since our promotion and are one of footballs unfashionable clubs the appointment of which manager wouldnt be a massive gamble?

    Who would you have from the managers that are currently out of work????
     
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    Worthington Megson or Joe Royle. nt
     
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    RE: Worthington Megson or Joe Royle. nt

    500k there per year per manager on wages
     
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    but...

    if the choice was davey plus say an extra £250,000 in the transfer kitty (possibly more) or one of the more "established" managers then this maybe suggests why davey was the choice.
     
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    That might be the wrong question

    If and its still an if National Red is correct regarding Blackwell turning us down, no one thats any good would take the job if those restrictions are true
     
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    RE: Worthington Megson or Joe Royle. nt

    All three have been at clubs with more money to spend than we have. They would all be a gamble at Oakwell. Bloody Mourinho and Ferguson would be a gamble on the money were offering!
     
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    ..........what if there is no Gamble at all !!!!...........seems National Red is saying the same nt
     

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