Simon Davey says something interesting on the main site

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  1. Jay

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    http://www.barnsleyfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10309~1377191,00.html

    Apparently he doesn't even see the academy lads train. Is that usual for a manager? I would have thought that casting an eye on the young talent we have at the club is a necessary part of the manager's duties. From the article it sounds like yesterday's reserve game was the first time he'd seen some of the lads. Is it any wonder then that we're getting no talent graduating from the academy to the first team. I doubt there's been another period in our history when we've had so few Barnsley youngsters in the first team. I certainly can't remember it being like this. It's rare that we get an academy graduate in the 16.
     
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    Let's give Jamil Adam a place on the bench...

    can't be any worse than KO
     
  3. Gimson&theBarnsleys

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    Simple answer: Foreigners taking their jobs nt
     
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    Other than young Mark Beevers at Sheffield Wednesday

    There doesn't appear to be any Barnsley kids making the grade at other Championship/Premier League clubs, either. Has that particular well of football talent run dry?
     
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    Went to the reserves last night

    and for the first time in a long time i was actually impressed with some of the kids in paticular Lazarus who looks like he can just beat men at ease and a young kid who i think was called Taylor he played in the middle of the park and didn't stop barking orders out all game, he only looked 15 but looked very assured and confident. Adam also played very well.
     
  6. Gue

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    Good question

    The talent is quite simply not there or...
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    We are either not scouting the best of what is available and so are recruiting lads who'll never make it at Championship level or we are, but the Academy and/or 1st team management is failing them by not developing them to their potential imho.</p>

    Again in my opinion the entire Acedemy set up needs stripping back and assessing, and those who manage it need replacing.
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    RE: Good question

    We were on about this last night at the match and i think its the coaches who need replacing, too many times have we had promosing players come through only to just stop in there progression, we seem unable to kick them onto the next level. Butterfield last night looked class, long range passing with both feet, a good tackler and a box to box player but stick him with the first team and he is lost surely we should be able to intergrate some of these lads into the team.
     
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    I suppose

    There's the possibility that local talent has simply being going through a 'dry' spell. Since it's birth, the academy has failed to produce anything like the talent for the first team it's predecessor managed. The facilities are superb, but are the coaches any better than someone like Eric Winstanley?
     
  9. Gue

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    RE: I suppose

    Another good question.</p>

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    Two good questions on the same day?

    I'll mark it on the calender.
    Did Nurse Gladys ever get into a heavy petting session with Arkwright?





    And the run comes to an end.
     
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    one of the big problems in football cricket etc is that these sports no longer exist in schools like they did years ago. the sports teachers have adopted a policy of non competitiveness in games played. no longer do schools play football or cricket against other schools nearby. i remember as a young kendray lad going to ardsley oaks if playing lundwood for example you didnt sleep for a couple of nights before the game as you were terrified to encroach on there territory. sooner the schools are sorted and some respect brought back life will be a struggle cos kids dont know how to enterain themselves. bring back conscription. ban tellies till you are 40. lets have fry ups every day without been told they are bad for you. lets have plenty of salt on our fish and chips. without been preached to. LETS ENJOY OURSELVES un beat derby 3 0 setday. love to all
     
  12. Gue

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    3 lads from our lass's school ( a run-down inner city comp with no playing fields etc ) are on the books of Nottm Forest and Leicester's Academy - so talent gets through irrespective of surroundings sometimes.
     
  13. Gue

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    top class, the academy and the coaches...i reckon..nt

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    As i have said before Barnsley accademy is just a cheap way of getting the menial jobs around oakwell done,then when their time is up they are cast aside without a second thought.Also in my oppinion the coaches down there are crap.
     
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    can I ask, what do you sell? nt
     
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    It must be difficult to blood youngsters when it seems as though every game is vital. So much pressure is created by the prospect of promotion or relegation or the simple need to win that everyone looks for a quick fix i.e bringing a perceived reliable (now largely foreign) pro in rather than giving a home grown kid a chance.

    We always seem to be in a position where the next game is vital. So no risks taken. So no real run in the team for a youngster.

    Meanwhile, one or two of our discards have not done too bad for themselves. Not world beaters but sometimes Fallon Parkin etc. have looked better than we have had up front.

    Wish we had another Hirsty. He was dynamic on debut and made it worth turning up just to see him, for the little time he played for us. He did however disprove the theory that a kid needs a real run before he's any good.
     
  18. Gue

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    this isnt only a problem at barnsley, most english clubs struggle to produce 'talented' youngsters, and i dont believe its because 'foreigners are taking thier jobs either'. foreign players are generally technically far superior, and perhaps this is a result of the superior and more structured coaching they receive. you only have to look at the abject failure and dearth of talent of the england football teams of late to see that this is a continuing problem.
     
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    I think SD was there only to check on the fitness of Muller and the rising talent of Adam. He knows the pack needs shuffling especially up front.
     

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