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  1. Boaty Tyke

    Boaty Tyke Well-Known Member

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    i know! I've worked out that after being made redundant as a household we would be better off if i got a 'bad back'
     
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    nice hair cut nt
     
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    Also got caught out

    trying to bum invites for Alen Corens memorial service. caught out by Alan Corens daughter who then put a spoof ad in the paper and Jolley claimed to have known him Piece below: Also have a look at the linkat the bottom this has been deleted from wikipedia

    Memorial Scammers?

    I read a very interesting article in yesterday's Observer by Victoria Coren, daughter of the well-known writer, humorist and broadcaster Alan Coren who died in October 2007. The article evoked a combination of amusement and horror.

    In brief: Victoria was planning a memorial service for her father when she was alerted to the existence of one Terence Jolley. This man seems to make a habit of attending memorial services for famous people, particularly those with arts connections.

    I've never been to a memorial service for anyone famous, but it seems that entrance is by ticket. Numbered tickets are distributed by the family, partly to ensure that relatives and friends are seated near the front, with fans and well-wishers further back. It may be that for some memorial services, entrance is restricted to those who knew the deceased in person, but as far as Victoria was concerned, "Those who had written honestly to say that they didn't know my father personally, but were life-long admirers, were very welcome."

    An email from 'Terence and Caroline Jolley' claimed that they had worked with Alan Coren at the BBC. Googling Terence Jolley reveals that he is an ex-magistrate; has been involved with a transport fraud; may at some time have run a printing company in Barnsley; does voluntary work; has a particular interest in mental health issues; has himself suffered a nervous breakdown and been diagnosed as suffering from a personality disorder; and has never been married (although of course Caroline could be his sister, aunt, granny or whatever).

    Victoria did some detective work and discovered that the postal address given by Terence and Caroline Jolley was a guesthouse in Ilford. She had also been asked to send tickets to this address by a Keith Davidson. Terence Jolley's home address is in Barnsley, and she had been asked to send tickets to that address by a Lady Noreen Wray and a Mr Gary Holmes. There were emails from other people whose names she didn't recognise and whose postal addresses, when she checked, didn't appear in any official records. She contacted one man she'd never heard of, Marc Cain, and discovered that his name had been 'borrowed' for a ticket application - and so had his dog Tessa's.

    So Victoria, being both clever and cross, decided to lay a trap for the Jolley gang. She invented a fictional arts patron, killed him off, and advertised a non-existent memorial service all over the Internet, giving the email address of the fictional arts patron's fictional grief-stricken boyfriend. Within hours she had had a request for tickets from 'The Hon Terence Jolley and Terence Jolley (Snr)', and from Lady Noreen Wray, Gary Holmes and several others who had previously applied to attend Alan Coren's memorial service. They all claimed to have known, or known of, the fictional arts patron, and - most sickeningly - to have admired his work.

    Gotcha! But due to a combination of complicated circumstances, Victoria decided not to prevent the whole gang from attending her father's memorial service. She ensured that Terence Jolley himself was unable to attend, and let the others come to the service and tuck into the food at the reception while she "avoided them, got drunk and toasted my father".

    Terence Jolley seems to style himself 'The Hon' fairly regularly. This would mean he was, or was related to, a peer of the realm, or that he was a Privy Councillor. There is no evidence on the Internet to support this, and in fact a Wikipedia entry from 2008 for 'The Honourable Terence Jolley' was swiftly deleted for 'not indicating a real person'. But he's been doing this for a while: for example, The Times reported him attending a memorial service as The Hon Terence Jolley in 2005. They have him down at another one in early 2008, this time as Mr Terence Jolley, whose name is next to Ms Noreen Wray - whose title also seems to be astonishingly flexible. She appears in The Times at a royalty-studded memorial service in 2007, this time as Mrs Noreen Wray and without Mr/The Hon Jolley. UK Google has four entries for Noreen Wray, three connected with memorial services and one from October 2007 when she petitioned the Government to give Terence Jolley an OBE or MBE. The petition received six signatures, including those of 'Darren and Becky Fisher' - which is interesting as Victoria had an application for tickets to her father's memorial service from 'Darren and Heidi Fisher'. I wonder who these people are.

    The Observer, quite rightly, gave Terence Jolley a chance to answer Victoria's allegations. Here is what he said:

    I applied at the time [to attend Alan Coren's memorial service] when the announcement went in the Telegraph or one of the papers. Myself and several of my colleagues applied - it was easier to apply on their behalf than do it individually.

    I'd met him in Leeds on a couple of occasions. There was nothing untoward about me applying. It was not done in a way to deride somebody but the complete opposite. I've made similar applications in the past but sometimes I haven't got the time to go to them. They are people I have met or I have connection with from doing research; maybe I will have met them on only one or two occasions. I applied on behalf of Marc Cain and assumed he might have a lady friend he wanted to bring along so it was the easiest thing to do [apply on behalf of Cain's dog]. I couldn't think whether he had a particular lady friend; you never know.

    I applied [to attend a memorial for the fictional arts patron] and it's possible I applied on behalf of some friends, too. I couldn't find him in Who's Who but I'd read he had been recently knighted. It was interesting to know what people did and what they have achieved.

    But this still leaves me with several questions. Why the shifting titles? And why the outright lies? It may be that some of the people who apply for tickets to memorial services are not fans of the person who has died, but just want a nice day out, a chance to don a posh outfit and scoff some free grub. As Jolley says, it can be interesting to know about people's lives, especially those who are in some way exceptional. And I know, from hanging around crematorium entrances, that people attend all sorts of funerals for all sorts of reasons, and free food is often high on the list. It may seem like a small offence to blag a few butties from some famous people. But famous people love their families just as much, and feel the pain of bereavement every bit as keenly, as any other people. And in my book, blagging anything off the recently bereaved leaves a very nasty smell.

    The trouble with uncovering this gang is that they might get better at what they do, change their names and identifying details, and carry on. So it's just as well there's a photo of Mr Jolley on the Internet, then, isn't it?

    http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=The_Honourable_Terence_Jolley_(deleted_14_Jul_2008_at_01:56)
     
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    **** me

    he gets disability money because he has a **** personality? Mr X must be raking it in
     
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    Justice!

    They reckon a £5k fraud is worth a prison sentence, but some tw@t breaks into my house causing over 8k's worth of damage to nick £20 quid out of my wallet and the useless tw@ts in blue can't even be @rsed to turn up becuase I didnt' see which way he ran off.

    Jesus wept.

    Steal from a company and it's jail for you.

    Steal from a person and we can't be bothered.
     
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    Don't take this the wrong way but 8k worth of damage? What did they do to cause that much just breaking in?
     
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    smashed and broke loads of stuff.

    It was like a bomb site.

    For £20!


    I now carry an old defunct pin number round in my wallet just in case so if it ever gets nicked again the scrote goes WOOP WOOP when he searches through it, then gets utter misery when the machine swallows the card - just so he gets some of the misery we have suffered, if only for a second.

    Not that I'm planning on getting it nicked again!
     
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    Not a bad idea

    Aren't all cash machines watched by CCTV as well? That would presumably mean that they would have an image of him trying to use your card.
     
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    33 years old?

    He looks to be in his mid 50s
     
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    That's because...

    the law of our capitalist society is designed to protect goods, property and profits not people.

    That's why fraud uually gets longer than GBH
     
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    dont even waste my time with the polcie when it comes to home security, all plastic bobbies round here and they arnt worth the 20k a year pro rata they get.
     
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    Imagine what his lunch expenses must have been!!! nt

    Fat tw4t
     

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