So ive recieved a phone call today

With regards another job, I've been offered a fantastic opportunity, it's basically doubling my salary for doing the exact same job as I'm doing now, this company is based in the west midlands and been around for about 30 yrs so I know all about them and I know it's a once in a lifetime chance but here's the drawback the company I work for now is a small family run business and only pay small wages and I know the couldn't offer me anymore on top of that I know there's a good chance they'd struggle if I go. That's not me been big headed I've brought 75% of the sales in to the company, do I look after me and my family? or do I show loyalty?.

 

In the words of Jacob Butterfield, "Look after number one". Your present company would soon sack you if you were under-achieving so you don't owe them anything. You could tell them the situation and leave it up to them whether they wen part way to matching the new salary.

 

Although I can see the point your making there are a lot of cases in football where this logic can't be applied in the same way.

 

You after look after yourself.

 

I was actually going to put "does this sound familiar" at the end but it's true Mario I've got until over the weekend to decide mate

 

I wasn't doubting you although I did think it was a post about Buttercup, sorry if that’s how it came across. No what I was meaning was that it did sound familiar and that the similarities between normal life and football can only be drawn under certain circumstances.

With regards to yourself I would discuss with the Mrs and decide what’s best for you taking into account job satisfaction, job security and other factors like that. I turned down a job a few years ago from a rival company doing a similar job (they contacted me and asked me to apply). The salary and overall package was better but I had a lot of job security with my current company at the time. Anyway I turned the job down and stayed where I was an in hindsight I did the right thing because about five years after this happened they were making redundancies and the role they offered me was one of the positions that went. Some of the staff who were made redundant are now working with me.

 

Hi Mate,

So you work in sales, are you going to be selling the same product?
What are targets and KPI's. Is the work load going to be double these are all the things I would take into consideration.
Did you apply for the job or was you head hunted?
Sorry for the loads of questions a mates asked the same question a week ago.

Cheers

Kev

 

If you worked for me I'd prefer you to be honest with me and see if there is anything I could offer you to persuade you to stay, but I wouldn't expect you to stay out of loyalty alone. There may be other things I could offer other than just dosh, like flexible/part-time working, working from home, bonuses/commission (so I can pay you more but only when we can afford it by getting extra sales), shares, extra holidays, a new flashy sounding job title, a free season ticket at Oakwell or a new set of bulbs for the scoreboard.

At the end of the day, if you left I would have to spend a considerable amount of money replacing you and training your replacement, and even then I would be risking the new person not working out and sales would drop. If I gave that amount of money to you to persuade you to stay, the situation for me would be financially neutral. You might be surprised what I could come up with, given the chance.

I obviously don't know your boss and I don't know how he/she would react to such a conversation. I'm just saying that I would be dissapointed if you just walked in one day and resigned, as it would probably then be too late for me to try to do anything about it.

At the end of the day you and your family are more important than anything else, but I would give your employer a chance to at least try.

And one more thing. I wouldn't deal with agents!

 

I agree

That'd be a reasonable and fair approach.

 

It's the same product kev and I was head hunted, yes there is targets but that wouldnt be a problem because of the contacts I have within the trade, workload would probably increase but not to a amount I couldn't handle, you'd think it would straight forward but a couple of sleepless nights for me I reckon

 

Some fantastic points stahlost, the one thing I wouldnt dream of doing is just walking out on them, I've already decided to speak to my boss tomorrow. I'm going to see what he comes up with then take it from there, thanks for your advice mate

 

How far extra are you going to have to travel each day mate or you relocating,
You have the think of the extra travel and the cost in fuel to mate.

Was it an agency that contacted you ?

 

No problem good luck with the decision.

 

I'd be working from home but covering north east/west and Yorkshire areas but I get a company credit card so there isn't much cost to myself, no mate it's not a agency it's a company that I've dealt with for years and a position as come up so the md gave me a call with the offer

 

After I left the oil industry, I got a job with a small family business as it was relatively local to me. The salary was 40% of what I had been earning, but as there was little choice as at the time the construction sector in the oil industry was contracting, with most work going to the Far East, I accepted. Despite being far more qualified and experienced than they were, the family did not listen to me, and retained a tight family unit re. the running of the business. Result, the company went down hill, and from employing 40 people, finished up with 6. I was offered several overseas jobs in the petrochem industry during my employment, but stayed loyal, hoping that I might be able to make an imput into the company's operations. Needless to say, I was the 7th from last employee to find himself out of work.

My conclusion would be, that in family businesses, they are only loyal to themselves.

 

Thanks to everyone for all your advice, I'll let you know what I decide, cheers!

 

One thing you could get (if they offered or you asked) is a stake in the company your with now. If they gave you a share of the org and you have faith in your ability you could develop the company to a bigger thing by doing the same as you will do with the larger org. Wont be immediate salary impact but will be an incentive and longer term investment. The family org get to keep you, dont make a big salary shift but give up a part of their business to you.


different and a more risky approach but not an uncommon thing in smaller family based sales orgs.

 

You are Jacob Butterfield

And I claim my £5.

Seriously - do what makes you and your family happy.
Giving you current employer the chance to improve your package is admirable.
I would, however, be wary of missing an opportunity you may not get again.
You might regret it forever, Jacob.

 

Damn! I was just hoping to get the blessing of the fans before I sod off..... if I'm been honest I'm swaying towards the new job but I'll see what my old boss as to say tomorrow,