SOFT young players

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  1. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    I'm in a hotel room in Southampton watching the BBC Final Score........just a few minutes of play left............and I knew what was about to happen.

    And when it did, when Donny scored in the last minute, my whole weekend collapsed into a pile of ***** at that point.

    I knew it was coming, and yet when it did, I felt so foooking bad.

    And Why did I know it was coming.........its because we have a young team, most of them their balls aint dropped yet.........there aint no backbone in the squad.......... the whole squad is as soft as a bag of cuddly toys.

    We are without a leader - an older Redfearn type of player on the field.

    Why is this ???...........its got to be from instructions from the top...............bring in good young players on longer contracts that we can develop.
    (which is straying away {thankfully} from the previous instructions..........bring in lower league players on short term contracts that we can develop)

    In the mean time..........the fortunes of the team lurches from one extreme to the other.........win against good opposition - lose against cr@p teams the following week...........the state of Barnsley Football Club is fooooking ridiculous

    How much more is Patrick Cryne going to put us through ???

    And yes..........I sincerely hope PC, LJ and all the players read this message board
     
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    red24/7 Well-Known Member

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    L J is only 33, he don't want older players, he needs young team to keep control I M H O
     
  3. Whi

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    The lack of experience is a factor. But it wasn't youth that lost us the game, pal. It was the radical change in shape and personnel. It unsettled the players. It gift wrapped Donny an opening three times. They took the third invitation and the three points. I just hope the management learn from that.

    I won't say anyone had a bad game. And they gave their all, to a man. Onto the next un.
     
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    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    An older more experienced head that is a leader on the field knows how to see games out.

    At the moment we have a set of kids.......that have great skill.........but need to learn the game

    Which of the current squad is the older more experienced leader on the field ???

    Yer know the type.........the player that you know will be on decent wages..........the Molby / Futcher type of player.

    They aint there !!!..............and they aint there because, in my opinion, instructions laid down from the top.
     
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    Nyatanga?
     
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    So you've managed to diagnose the problem by watching final score. That's impressive - not sure even the greatest managers in football could do that.

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    Things really do not happen as you suggest. Instructions really are not handed down from on high like you read in the bible. The policy that the club has adopted will have been discussed at length over many months and the members of the board will all have given their opinion, as will the team manager. It will have been worked out given the restrictions of budget, SCMP and the sums of money that Mr Cryne has available for investment. All these have an effect on the budget for players wages, and by definition, the type of player that we can afford. It will have been noted that money from player sales can have a significant effect on budgets for both wages and for funding player purchases, and given that younger players are generally on lower wages and also that they can be improved and sold at a profit, the sense of building a strategy around younger players will have gathered support. I am bound to say that, given time and patience, the strategy is our best hope of making progress given the restrictions placed on the club by budgets and SCMP.

    The problem is that many supporters do not understand the meaning of the word PATIENCE. They are quite happy to be patient when the team wins, but are less happy when the team loses. So it is worthwhile stating once more that patience only applies when the team loses. Patience is about keeping the long term objectives in mind in spite of short term reversals in fortune, because of the belief that the long term strategy is one that can work given time. Being patient is no more than believing in a strategy and staying with it through thick and through thin.
     
  8. Whi

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    No Minority Report this weekend, why not?
     
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    Being patient is no more than believing in a strategy and staying with it through thick and through thin.


    So why do the club change tack every 18 months or so after getting us to buy into their ideas.....would be my first question lol
     
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    I did not go to the game, so I have no report, minority or otherwise.
     
  11. Whi

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    Shame.
     
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    That's not really true though is it? . Fans have been complaining about a lot of games being boring (even after wins which is unusual). Patience is all well and good but to exist you need fans and there are quite a few dropping by the wayside already because they don't like what's on view.
    Now as I've said previously I can't get to games as often as I used to (but will continue to go when I can) so I can't comment on them all but the ones I have seen have been less than enthusing.
    Its not even what I used to refer to as proper 'boring' football, back in the day like Arsenal and Leeds used to play where you nicked a goal (ideally early on) and then strangled the game with well organised midfields and defence, in some respect you could appreciate that more as a technical exercise.
    The thing is we never seem to learn or change anything from the start, and when we do some of the subs are mystifying.
    Thing is I'm not advocating getting rid of the manager just getting him to change his ways a bit, we really do have some talent in the team but too often it seems to be wasted by horrible game plans
     
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    I think the problem is that not everyone, like myself, believe that Johnson is the man to be patient with. I'd be a little more behind him if he wasnt so stubborn or idiotic, not sure which one yet, about his tactics and the boring football he serves up. If he was winning more often than not playing that way you'd have to bite your tongue and accept it but we arnt.


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    The opening poster seemed to be suggesting that the fact that we have a team of young players is the fault of an off the field instruction from on high. My reply was addressing the theory that LJ is not in charge of policy.

    If you accept that using young players is the way to go, and that this is a joint policy decision, then the responsibility for the decision is a group one. Of course, LJ could, and no doubt will, eventually be held responsible for the administration of that policy, but hopefully that will be at least 3 years away. If you look at the statements we are hearing from both LJ and BM, both have stated that the rebuilding process will continue over the next 3 transfer windows minimum. That would suggest to me that the rebuilding process has probably 2 years to go, and in that time the immature players will be 2 years older and will have 2 years more experience. No-one is suggesting that all of the current team will still be with us in 2 years. Indeed, the rebuilding process only began 5 months ago.

    I am not a happy clapper, as anyone who has read "The Minority Report" will testify. I know as well as anyone that this team has many faults. However, I appreciate more than most that these faults cannot be rectified at the drop of a hat. LJ is criticised for being negative, but one of our more negative displays was against Swindon, when we allowed them a greater share of possession and were much more selective about when we pressed the ball. Yet, because we won handsomely, everyone was happy with the way that we played. I did not go to Doncaster, but by all accounts we were comfortable in the 4-5-1 shape, but LJ decided to try to win the game by changing to 3-5-2 and the gamble backfired. He risked a possible gain of 2 points against a possible loss of one.

    The manager is picking formations that he thinks gives his young and inexperienced team their best chance of winning. If he switches to less appropriate formations in an attempt to be more entertaining, then fans must accept that, with this group of players, it gives us a better chances of losing. So there is the choice, this group of players, with their current levels of experience and skill, can either entertain or they can win. They cannot do both.
     
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    Love a player like Ritchie Wellens in the middle of the park with the team we've got at the minute. Brilliant player.


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