Someone needs to tell Shep that Steele can't play against Brom in the cup

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  1. Gue

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    He's just been on Radio 5 saying he can subject to a discussion with Brom's chairman.
     
  2. Gue

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    Well the discussion might be regarding an approach to the FA to change the rules
     
  3. EastStander

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    Special dispensation perhaps

    if we can arrange a pre-contract agreement.

    It's worth them investigating it at least.
     
  4. Gue

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    Seriously?

    Mid-tournament? Are you still drunk?
     
  5. pau

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    why should they

    it is there to stop possible collusion-what if Man U loaned Chelsea a forward who was then picked tp play v Man U and deliberately didn't try?
     
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    I believe that's the only way we can get him to play

    If we agree to buy him at the end of the season, then he can play.
     
  7. Gue

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    RE: I believe that's the only way we can get him to play

    But he'd still be contracted to them and as I understand it that's what the stumbling block is. As ES says I think it'd need special dispensation and I can't see us getting it mid tournament when we've got another goalie on the books.
     
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    no he can't

    (j) Temporary (loan) Transfers
    (i) A player on a temporary (loan) transfer is ineligible to compete in the Challenge Cup
    Competition unless permission to do so is given by the lending Club in writing and a
    copy is received by The Association by 12 noon on the Friday prior to the date fixed
    for playing the Round. A registered Trainee or a player who is registered on a
    Scholarship for work experience may play for another Club, subject to written
    permission being given by the Club that he is registered to and provided that such
    permission is received by The Association by 12 noon on the Friday prior to the date
    fixed for playing the Round. <font size="4" color="#ff0000">The Association <u>will not give permission</u> for players on
    loan or work experience to play against the lending Club.</font>
     
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    No harm in Shep trying nt
     
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    Watford's keeper was forced to miss the semi final last year too

    as he was on loan from manchester united and they got them in the semi's.

    Having said that, the FA rules do state that under special circumstances for goal keepers the usual loan rules may not apply so considering we don't have two fit professional goalkeepers at the club we could argue that we need special dispensation.
     
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    no chance..........

    .the dispenation is for the time limits and number of loanees</p>

    they will not allow Steele to play v WBA -it is too open to suspicion-Steele is contracted to and paid by WBA until the season end-if he was in goal for us there would be a massive conflict of interest-could WBA tell him not to try too hard-it won't happen -just hope we avoid them in the semis and they get knocked out</p>
     
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    out of interest how do you know he is paid by west brom?

    and where have you read that the dispensation is for time limits and loan numbers?

    Also why is it a bigger conflict of interest than if he had been loaned to us from sheffield wednesday and we played each other on the final day of the season with the winner staying up?
     
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    RE: out of interest how do you know he is paid by west brom?

    if he's not paid by WBA there's something weird going on!!! we may be helping out</p>

    there are proviions for emergency loans outside the transfer windows:-</p>

    </p><p class="MsoNoSpacing">The Football League has negotiated a clause allowing the loan of players between it's 72 members outside of the transfer windowsin cases of emergency.</p> <p class="MsoNoSpacing">What is an emergency loan? What rules govern the transfers of players outside of the transfer window? </p> <p class="MsoNoSpacing">Since season 2005/06 Football League clubs have been subject to FIFA's registration and transfer rules which included the introduction of transfer windows between the end of the seasonto the31st August and during the month of January.

    The rules affected both permanent and loan transfers and in order to comply The League amended its own regulations governing this area:</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>Previous restrictions on the length of loan periods were altered to allow players of all ages to be loaned from window to window for either a half or full season.</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>Clubs are allowed to register a maximum of eight such signings, four under 23 and a further four over 23 in any season, with only two of the latter age group being allowed to come from the same club.</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>Additionally, The League, with the approval of the FA, made provision for clubs to take players on short term emergency loans during the closed periods in exceptional circumstances &ndash; there is no limit on the number of emergency loans.</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>As in previous seasons, no more than five loan players will be allowed to feature in a club's 16 man matchday squad.</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>The minimum period of any emergency loan will be 28 days.</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>The maximum period of any emergency loan will be 93 days.</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>Ifafter the initial 28 day loan period the loan is extended, the parent club will be able to recall the player at 24 hours notice.</p> <p class="MsoNoSpacing">The window for &quot;Emergency loans&quot; during the 2007/8 season will be from:</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>Friday September 8thuntil 5pm on Thursday November 22nd.</p> <p style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt" class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol">&middot;<span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> </span></span>Friday February 8thuntil 5pm on Thursday March 23rd.</p> <p class="MsoNoSpacing"></p>

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