I honestly do rate them that well - as good a full back pairing as I have seen at Oakwell. Would dearly love to sign both permanently, cannot believe we wouldn't have significant competition if it became known that they might be available. Would even go as far as to say that even if we had to pay a huge fee, and not sign anyone else for a couple of seasons it would still make sense, given the improvement I have seen since their arrival. Does anyone know what Stoke might accept? Surely it would be several hundred thousand for each, at least?