Thatchers deindustrialisation policies are her most significant legacy but

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  1. loy

    loyal tyke mb Well-Known Member

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    The NUM should have had a vote on strike action to give the strike a proper mandate and encourage the support of other unions and most importantly the support of the then socialist Labour Party led by Neil Kinnock. Mr Scargill did not suffer economically during the Strike moving to a new home.
     
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    we had already had a vote on strike action for pit closures and contarary to popular belief scargill didn't move to a new house during the strike....and before anyone else spouts anyother myths he didn't buy a new jag either.all stories concocted AFTER the strike by the tories to try and justify what they were doing.

    scargill was monitored 24 hours a day during the strike,they knew when he went for a ****,if he had bought a new house during the strike his mugshot and his house keys would have been all over the sun newspaper.
     
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    We had a vote on the incentive scheme which was democratically and overwhelmingly voted against the n British coal undermined the vote by offering the nott's area a very generous scheme which had no bearing on the original offer so no history there of the tatcer gov't honouring democracy of the workers
     
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    He was only in court last year trying to keep his grace and favour flat in London so we know what he's like.

    The NUM in Derbyshire have a grand total of 4 members but they have officials on £90,000.

    Her biggest legacy is actually privatisation which every other western country and then the Eastern Bloc copied.
     
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    No he didn't move house during the strike. It was put on hold until after because it was politically sensitive. That's from the person who did the conveyance. Also wasn't he paid as a union official during the strike ?

    Btw I'm not an apologist for thatcher, far from it.
     
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    No he didn't move house during the strike, he was far too clever for that. What he did was arrange for the union which he was the president of to buy his house off him allowing him to continue living there rent free during the strike whilst keeping a large lump sum in his bank account. He then used this money as soon as the strike ended to buy a large expensive house in Barnsley
     
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    From a good source obviously
     
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    you did the conveyance or you know someone who did.

    because I've a mate that claims he knows someone who did the same thing with a jag from a dealership in Huddersfield.,and that was put on hold until after the strike for the same reasons.
     
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    Yes. All from publicly accessable files. The union (of which he was the president) bought the house for him (they paid his mortgage even before this anyway) in case the government seized his property. By selling it to the union it wasn't his property to seize.
     
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    Apologies if move to larger bungalow not factually correct was told this by someone who used to live near him but in what History will judge as the last significant working class action the absence of labour party support was critical. In no sense was the strike an unjust cause but it was the first time since the strike that a labour Party leader has visited the Annual Miners Gala namely Ed Milliband last year and this support was needed if the strike had any chance of achieving a result.
     
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    the unions assets were seized by the courts so i'm not sure how that would work
     
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    Seems reasonable to me as the gov't depts at the time were run like the FBI nobody was safe they were worse than the mafia
     
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    I think that was the durham miners gala who wouldn't have a labour leader present at their gala after the strike because the labour party left us out to dry.and also ditched the nationalisation clause in an effort to get support from tory voters.
     
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    Remember Neil Kinnock as a guest speaker at a Miner's Rally in Locke park after the strike.
     
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    Were you around during the strike?
     
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    I was alive and affected but wasn't old enough to be working.
     
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    I was an apprentice.I'd been there just over a year and
    Was told not to come to work. As an app you weren't allowed to strike so we were effectively laid off. We were told to sign on because of this and we got dole money. But not all areas of the country had the same rules and some weren't signing on. So they stopped everybodys money. We still had to go to Tech for our day release each week but we didn't even get paid for that.
     

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