The Barnsley Model

So, we all know that our model involves buying youngs players, bringing them on and selling some of them for a big profit. The BBC pundits kept banging on about this the other day. Whereas our (current and previous) board's mistakes in the past have led to us losing a big chunk of the team in one go over and over again, it seems like they've learned a lesson on this and aren't going to let that happen again. I also think that we're in a better position to negotiate a good fee for the players we do sell - our players are under contract and at a club that is thriving.

With this in mind, does anyone else think we've got a good platform for a couple more years of competitiveness at this level at least?

Maybe this summer we'l lose Mowatt and sell, say, Callum Styles for £6m. We'd need to replace two key positions but we'd have a decent transfer kitty to do that with. If we sold Andersen it seems like we've already got 3 other quality options in the squad.

It's a very positive time to be a reds fan at the minute!

 

I think if a decent offer comes in for Styles from a Premier League club we'd have to let him go. But I think that any less than £10 million with a lot of add ons and I'd be very unhappy.

 

There is less money around in football at the moment, so less to tempt our best players away. I’m sure normal service will be resumed in due course.

And I just can’t see us holding out for a £6m fee any time soon.

 

We'll almost certainly lose Mowatt and Styles if I'm honest. Anderson is also a possibility but we have cover for him already.
The other one that worries me is Calum Brittain as he's bound to attract attention the way he's performing.
Having to replace Mowatt, Styles and Brittain would be a very tall order and would cost a fair bit of cash I imagine.

 

I think there's an argument that some of this squad will have been together for three seasons next year and it might be time to freshen things up to the point that some of the players might not be seen as losses. That isn't through bad play I mean in general. People like fresh challenges and go stale.

 

I don't know. Brittain was an MK Dons cast off, they're ten a penny!

Absolutely no idea how that's worked. Maybe we're just his club?

 

Brittain has been brilliant. Can see someone coming in for him, but he's still 22 and under a long contract! So would have to be a good fee.

Helik could also interest a lower prem club.

 

Brentford were lauded in the press for having a similar model to us a few months ago.

 

Works both ways, we've no income so surely we should be accepting a half decent fee just to survive but we didn't- we turned down bids for Mowatt and Woodrow.

 

I slated the board for letting Ludewig go and signing him as a replacement. I'm delighted to have been proved very wrong.

Our press release re: Ludewig was still a bit tinpot though

 

Hate threads like this. We criticise the board for selling players while at the same time issuing guide prices for everybody.

There'll no doubt be interest in a number of players, but as long as the club and VI are able to meet half way on what's needed both on and off the pitch, we'll be fine.

 

Hopefully the strength of the model is that we don’t have to sell players as quickly or as cheaply. With many players having 3+1 year contracts that would indicate the board are looking at a year to develop a player and then get 2 years of them before either extending for a longer term or taking the option of the extra year and then either selling or letting them run the contract down.

I can’t see why we would sell Styles without having another full season from him at least although appreciate money talks

 

Ludewig was never going to be our player. Playing in the Bundesliga. On loan gaining a higher standard of experience.

 

There's a few here. https://www.talentmanagement.com/barnsley-modelling-agency/

 

I really like Callum Styles but find £10m claims unrealistic however much we like him

 

I agree with you , we have only just got through a transfer window which brought endless speculation well before january about who we were selling & how much we should be asking for etc etc etc , I just think its one of those rare phases that we can actually relax & enjoy what is happening before the inevitable profit of doom threads about players moving on begins again .

 

Sorry mate I forgot we're not allowed to talk about Barnsley FC on here!

"As long as the club and VI are able to meet half way on what's needed both on and off the pitch, we'll be fine". @Gally you can shut the BBS down now - we don't need to talk about the specifics of anything because it'll all be fine.

I wasn't criticising the board or "issuing price guides". But for what it's worth I think that'd be an interesting topic so would fit right in on the BBS

 

Red CB did you read the thread? It was actually very positive!

 

Never said you wasn"t , I was replying to someone else"s comment not yours , if I had felt the need to respond to you then I would have

 

The Barnsley Model has a Covid related problem currently. Most of the potential buyers for our players are Championship clubs, and their income has been severely restricted since Covid closed grounds. If they do not cash flow, they do not have cash and they do not have access to credit either. Most people believe that owners provide finance, but that is not true. Owners simply guarantee loans, but it is the club that borrows the money and must eventually repay it. Many Championship clubs overspent in the past, and now their income has slowed down, they are struggling to repay those loans. The Barnsley owners did not do that. They tried to run the club responsibly, but the club still loses money every year before player transfer activity. It is that activity that keeps the club stable, but there are fewer potential customers for our players, which could potentially drive transfer fees down. We are well run, but we rely on clubs that are less well run for part of our funding.