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  1. D/T

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    Should get bum fecked out of the England Set up.
    Robinson.
    Ferdinand
    Anything called Neville
    lampard
    Gerrard
    Rooney.
     
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    Robinson - solid keeper, don't blame him for the Croatia bobble.
    Ferdinand - agree there, Carragher would be a much better option.
    Gary Neville - best right back in country undoubtedly, good getting forward too.
    Phil Neville - sack of /poo
    Lampard - just isn't performing at the moment and in the inevitable choice between him and Gerrard he would go out.
    Gerrard - see above, a better option than Lampard, can defend and attack, would keep him in team.
    Rooney - he's just not on form at the moment but is the most naturally talented player we have, you never know when he might come up with something spectacular and for that reason I don't know if you can drop him.
     
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    Ferdinand is a clown with the attention span of a goldfish
    Robinson has blown hot at times but mostly extremely cold.
    Neville No thnaks.
    Lampard and Gerrad are not producing anywhere near the club form
    Rooney. Cannot score for love nor money this season unless its V bolton. And cannot keep his agression under control. Or his gob shut with referees. And seems to be going backwards developmentwise.
     
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    Rooney is in good form for Man U

    trouble with England everybody wants to score they don't pass to the strikers,they should be building the team round Rooney playing to his strengths but we seem to do the opposite.</p>
     
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    Trouble with England

    There are too many over hyped egos.
    Drop them all and replace them with youngsters.
     
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    Gary Neville

    Most consistent England player IMO.
     
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    Gary Neville

    Should have never been picked again for England after encouraging the players to 'strike' becuase his mate missed a piss test.
     
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    I think Rooney could maybe do with a 'rest' from the England team. We seem to have been waiting for him to find his international form since Euro 2004. And i agree that he is going backwards development wise. £30m for him is starting to look expensive.

    Robinson - not the best keeper in the country anymore and has had a poor season
    Ferdinand - seems to be more style than substance
    Nevilles - Gary is still best RB but Phil should not be anywhere near the national side
    Lampard - seems to subdue Gerrard or means he plays out of position, must be dropped
    Gerrard - best midfielder in country and should be played in the middle
    Rooney - was once full of potential but not really coming through, his international form is woeful
     
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    Gerrad cannot re produce his club form at international level.
     
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    He might if he is given a similar role rather than having to accommodate fat frank.
     
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    What a free role coming in from the right hand side?
     
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    From the right or in the middle. Either way a more attacking role. Its fact that Gerrards best days for England came before Lampard was a regular. They either cant play together or Lampard is taking something from Gerrards game. And with Lampard also in such poor form when he has the 3 lions on his chest, something must change, for me that is getting the best out of Gerrard.
     
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    Gerrad has two men behind him though at Liverpool.
     
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    Problem is

    Who do you intend to replace them with? At the end of the day, they're still going to be replaced by more overpaid jessies with an over-inflated opinion of their own worth. Being capped by England used to mean so much - players today seem to forget that people who have been watching for years can spot a player that isn't 'up' for games. It's the extra spark, extra drive that is completely devoid from almost every England game for years.

    I'd suggest sack the lot and pick players from the Championship down, but there are also plenty in this league that think they're a gift to the world because they get paid for kicking a ball round a park.
     
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    RE: Problem is

    Id look at someone like foster or carson for goalkeeper.
    Right back apart from micah richards there isnt a great deal of option, Although Glen johnston seems to be realising his potential and could be an asset.
    Ferdinand is a bit simpler to replace...Woodgate, Carraghar, Dawson King to name but four who are capable of the job in hand.
    The wide players are aslo quite straight forward, Lennon, barry cole(when fit) Milner plus theres two youngsters a Boro ANd stewart downing available. Not forgetting david Bentley who has been outstanding this season
    Central midfield id give kevin Nolan a chance or lee cattermole a kid who would die for the cause.
    Up top as Andy Gray says is where England lacks. Without Owen there isnt a front line goal poaching striker proven at this level. Rooney for all the hype assosiated with him isnt delivering.
    Andy johnson has the potential but has hardly got a look in. Defoe has the talen but leaves it on the Spurs training ground.
    Peter Crouch? Not a 90 minute man on the international stage.
    Which brings back the old Dean Ashton debate.
     
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    RE: Problem is

    Some good calls and some shockers, but I guess thats the point - it's time to look at some alternatives rather than sticking with the establishment just because they play for big clubs. A different manager would help too, but England have been crap for years so it's not just that.

    If Glen Johnson ever turns into a good full back I'll eat my hat, and it's one of those big furry Russian type things and would not be a pleasant munch. Pace is his only attribute of note. On the other hand I'd like to see dawson play, but I don't think he would go so well with Terry - King and Carragher would both be better options than Rio.

    Nolan I agree with wholeheartedly - he seems to play the game with a lot of passion and desire to win. But then again so does Gerrard when he plays for Liverpool.

    Downing has been a big disappointment so far for England, I had hoped that he might finally solve the well quoted 'Left Sided Problem' (well utilised as a ******** excuse for many a year). Crouch - give up. Emile Heskey in (a very good) disguise. Ashton would be worth a go for me if he was fit, but when he's back he is going to have to produce some performances before he gets back in. Knowing McLaren he'll pick him before he's ready, play him at left back and make a moron out of him on national telly.
     
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    IMO its down to motivation and tactics, it just aint there at the minute. Harry Redknapp should have been given the job when it was available, but it will never happen. The guy can get the best out of any player and atm we are not getting the best out of some of the best footballers in the world
     
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    RE: Problem is

    Been outstanding johnsone at Portsmouth this season.
     
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    Gerrard would be fine without Lampard nt
     
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    or Sam Allardyce

    Hadn't really considered Redknapp myself but the intent is the same. At international level the ONLY job the manager has to do is get the best out of the players available - candidates for the England job should be measured solely on that attribute (save for making sure they're not gonna do a Hoddle or something).
     

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