the future for the reds...

After reading the board for numerous months and biting my tongue over the last season I finally decided to make the dreaded move and sign up! But hey, here goes, remember it’s only my opinion, I’m a paying fan like the rest of you but hopefully you see some validity to my points:

Despite having the so called ‘backing’ of the players and the chairman, the fact of the matter is that Simon Davey lost the backing of the fans. Let’s face it, he never really had it ever since the 3-0 drubbing by Wednesday which somehow won him a contract. At the end of the day a club without fans is worth nothing, and unfortunately as I see it, Simon has never really been able to get the fans on his side due to page after page of poor statements signalling the attitude that we have no ambition, we’ll settle for mediocrity, and producing constant excuses for poor performances and poor tactical decisions. Rather than owning up to mistakes it seems that they were glossed over which most of the fans see straight through. Unfortunately I feel that this has put distance between the fans and the club, which is very disappointing to see. Now this season has been poor, very poor in my eyes and quite frankly some of the worst football I’ve seen for years, the ‘do not lose’ attitude is not what we’re about and something we shouldn’t accept! Despite investment into the team we struggled, massively, and the fact that we stayed up comes from luck rather than design.

So this leads me onto the ‘should he stay, should he go debate’. In my opinion the end of the season was a perfect opportunity for a much needed fresh start at the club; this club needed a fresh lease of life, something to spark the passion and faith back into the fans. But it appears that we’re sticking with the old and I think it’s something the club will ultimately regret. Also what makes me chuckle is the number of fans who wanted the man out after the Swansea game. Admit it, who didn’t?! And now a final game win against a team with nothing to play for and a half hearted apology in the newspaper later, and he’s suddenly the next Alex Ferguson. I’m sorry but that just goes to show how fickle some fans can be.

Last season was a warning, we were lucky. But somehow I don’t think we’ve learnt from this and we may be in for a rough ride. I hope to be proven wrong.

 

Good debut.

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Can't fault any of that.</p>

Of course,now you're registeredon this BBS, your opinion, for some reason,no longer reflects that of the mainstream fanbase. We're all intellectually isolated troublesome ubergeeks on here you know.</p>

 

Well you are !!!

I'm a proper fan I am ... so there

 

Nice one

although I don't agree with some of what you have posted.</p>

You have now to resort to purile insults, get banned, get titty lip on and join a 'clique' </p>

It's a part of the initiation ceremony.. bit like the masons but no handshake</p>

 

I'm not.

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I'm the wotsit in the woodpile.</p>

 

RE: I'm not.

(wnkr)

 

Get thee to a twattery.

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You stinking shitbag.</p>

 

wots up hartog????????????????

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wood every time Deliah s'mith its nice here mmmmmmmmmm cupcake???</p>

she know's you not very i'm afraid</p>

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i see what your doing there ???

when colin said you wasn't there in 1964 but he saw you i didn't eh ??

 

Northern monkey That's how it's done !!

learn from a master... even though even though he's a bit of a 'bumdog millionaire'

 

haha now i'm starting to wonder what i've let myself in for!!!

 

Last season was very disappointing...

.... and I don't like having to chew mi nails on the last day of the season at 1 - 0 down.</p>

But, changing a manager isn't easy, especially when quality isn't exactly beating a path to the door. Yes,Davey made mistakes. He has admitted as much. He knows, the club knows, we know and Mr Cryne obviously knows.</p>

But where do you draw the line and trade off any advantages of another uncertain change, against loss of stability and putting a hold on going for new players until a manager is chosen?</p>

All managers, all leaders, be it industry, business, or as we all know - government, have to make excuses and talk up poor performances. It's par for the course and comes with the job.</p>

ButI think we would all agree that, after all the post end of season statements he nowhas nowhere to run - he's in last chance saloon and he knows it.</p>

On balance, I think it has been the right decision to allow him one last throw of the dice to come better than he has.</p>

As fans, I thinkwe should afford him that and back the club.</p>

 

Well Said

Simon Davey having the backing of the player should mean **** all when he's not got the backing of the paying customers.

 

RE: Last season was very disappointing...

points taken, but what worries me is how we will be positioned to handle a change of managment mid season if, or when it all goes tits up. The signs have been there for 3 seasons, surely now would have been an idealistic time for change with time for preparation pre-season and a thorough assessment of where the club have weaknesses. Changing mid-season is merely reacting to crisis, rather than being pro-active and seeing the bigger picture. But if we go with Davey, thats what we go with, and as you say, we should support the club regardless

 

If, as you say..

... it all goes tits up, then yes, we'll have a mess to sort out.</p>

I supposethe clubfeels that, given the fact that the manager has survived a baptism of fire, has learned lessons, has the apparent backing of the players, may have more resources and can start from a better position,it has less chance of going awry than if we make a change now. It's a gamble, as are all managers, new and old.</p>

Hopefully, if things DO go wrong we can do the Houdini act once again and perhaps look towards changes in the future. Like you and everybody else I dunno. I tend to feel that we will have a much better season next time. One thing I AM glad for is that I don't have to lay awake at night worrying over it.</p>

 

Like I said yesterday, 'the backing of the players'......

...... means nothing when he's still in charge, no player with an ounce of sense will openly slag the manager off if he is staying at the club because they want to be in the team.

I don't believe Davey has got the backing of the players, they would only reveal their true feelings about him if he was sacked or resigned

 

yanwy yawn from yawnsville

how on earth do you back up your claim that he does not have the players backing when all the available evidence suggests otherwise?

PC says he has the dressing room
Key players have signed new contracts

The only stuff to suggest any dissent is rumour and hearsay. I doubt we would have stayed up if Davey had not got the players on his side.

 

Would you tell your boss to **** off ..........

...... if you hadn't got a new job to go to? No, I didn't think so.

There's been plenty of examples of unrest in the camp, so don't put your head in the sand and believe all is well at Oakwell between the manager and the players.

As for your last comment, we only JUST stayed up, again, not because of Davey's good relationship with the squad, more like we stayed up DESPITE Davey's bizarre team selections, tactics and formations from January onwards, purely because three teams below us had a shocking season

 

Correctomundo. nt

 

Plenty of unrest

as I've said before, 20 odd footballers wanting to play and only 11 starting places. If you think a few dummies wont be periodically spat you are in cloud cuckoo land.

We stayed up because we were BETTER than 4 teams actually.

The telling your boss to "**** off" bit is non sequitur, it is an absurd way to put the argument.